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Kopopo · Post by **Kopopo** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:49 pm

Uhm... my entire PC cost me $500 to build.

Tailfeather · Post by **Tailfeather** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:07 pm

hmm ok something is real wrong with that page then ^^;;

Tailfeather · Post by **Tailfeather** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:45 am

hmm when i think of it... there is alot of taxes we get here in sweden, when we import stuff... so the price gets a bit higher...

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well i hope i can get the right pieces for a new computer... otherwise ill just get a PS2 ^^;;

Josiejo · Post by **Josiejo** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:33 am

Yuk... AMD is crap. I had a Intel setup that lasted for years. I put together 5 AMD systems before I got one that has carried me for the same amount of time, but it runs almost 2x hotter than my Intel system ever did. I'd steer clear of it if I were you. The next system I put together will be Intel.

MHz/GHz contributes to performance more than it seems has been let on in this thread. You can't completely sacrifice cpu speed, but you don't necessarily need the highest you can get to have a fast system. 3.2GHz should be good enough for a couple of years. Motherboard... ASUS... nothing else. You'll want lots of RAM as well... I'd say at least 1GB, but more is better. Also, the faster the MHz on the RAM, the higher the data transfer rate will be, which does contribute to speed difference, if hardly noticable. Sounds like you have the hard drive part down. Also, don't skimp on cooling... keep your system cool and it'll be around for a long time. However, don't buy a full tower case thinking you're improving cooling... just get cable sleeves to improve airflow and keep cables tidy, and get a mid-tower. There's no need to get a full tower unless you're running a server with lots of hardware, and carrying a mid-tower will be much easier on you. (Trust me...

Prrsha · Post by **Prrsha** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:33 am

*agrees with Josiejo*

Intel processors are so much better then AMDs now and run much cooler. The less heat your system endures, the longer it will last. In all of the builds that I do for customers, I've had less problems and returns with Intel processors.

And never never skimp on cooling. Get a large case you and deck out all of the vents with fans. Make sure your memory cards are free of cords and have proper air flow. Most memory cards don't have any way to cool themselves other then the case airflow. Also make sure the slots around your graphics card are empty for maximum cooling.

The power supply of the case is very important as well. The newer graphics cards use up alot of power so make sure your power supply is adequate.

Tailfeather · Post by **Tailfeather** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:04 pm

ooh my... you really have missed somthing... you are thinking about the old AMD which had ALOT (the K6 CPU's if i remember right) of problem with the heat... but now its vice versa.. Intel has big problem theese days with the heat... which is one fact why im changing to AMD, i have a Intel P4 now and the heat did bad things to the motherboard... thats why my computer chrashed totaly ;( i got it repaired and even the store, well atleast the technican that repaired my motherboard (400Kronor for that repairing >.< thats around 30-40dollar i think) doesnt recommend Intel anymore due their heat problem...

and besides that, ive had intel CPU for all my computers... and its not a bad thing to change it once and see yourself

maybe i will like AMD, maybe not, time change and so does the people..

Tailfeather · Post by **Tailfeather** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:06 pm

um.. by the way, we are WAY out of topic now ^^;;

Kopopo · Post by **Kopopo** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:12 pm

I keep my system well-cooled so it's not like heat matters at all. I go with AMD because they are cheaper and offer higher performance. They are also wicked in the gaming arena.

Prrsha · Post by **Prrsha** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 12:38 am

Tailfeather wrote:ooh my... you really have missed somthing... you are thinking about the old AMD which had ALOT (the K6 CPU's if i remember right) of problem with the heat... but now its vice versa.. Intel has big problem theese days with the heat... which is one fact why im changing to AMD, i have a Intel P4 now and the heat did bad things to the motherboard... thats why my computer chrashed totaly ;( i got it repaired and even the store, well atleast the technican that repaired my motherboard (400Kronor for that repairing >.< thats around 30-40dollar i think) doesnt recommend Intel anymore due their heat problem...

In all of the latest builds that I have done, I've found that the newer AMD processors generate much more heat then the Pentium ones. Maybe you had a problem with your intel processor because it was a much older CPU?

Tailfeather · Post by **Tailfeather** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 2:55 pm

no clue, but i dun think so

well, i know AMD have had alot of heat problem, but atleast ppl says that Intel have gotten them now also.. atleast the latest CPU's but, anyway, im not too sure how it is now, with difference suggestions like theese makes me "lost", some say Intel and some here says AMD is the heat bringer

im quite confused... lol

Kopopo · Post by **Kopopo** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:18 pm

Well, it's kinda a rule tht the more you cram onto the die and the faster it's designed to run the more heat you'll generate. And AMD simply does more per cycle than an Intel does so it's understandably hotter. It's only a problem if you don't cool it.

Anathema · Post by **Anathema** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:26 pm

I currently run an AMD Athalon XP 2100+ (I know .. kinda old) but my CPU temp stays about 90° and my case temp reads at ~72° .. I know know about hot .. but 70° is about room temperature in my house

oh yea .. I also have 2 80Gb hdds in a RAID0

I hope to be upgrading soon to an AMD Athalon 64!

Post by **Alya Mizar (Tsybil)** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:03 am

Well, it's kinda a rule that the more you cram onto the die and the faster it's designed to run the more heat you'll generate.

You know, for a long time the Front Side Bus speed of the Intel processors meant that they were the heat demons, and the AMDs ran cooler.

Also, shrinking the mask means more devices per square micrometer, but less power consumption, and therefore less heat. So much so that todays chips generate far less heat/watt consumed than the chips of only two generations ago.

The real rule is, The more power you put in, the more heat you get out. Look at the power demands of a few chips and you have a good idea of the realitive heat output of the chips.

But with the use of fans, the whole heat duscusion is almost moot.

Confirmed AMD user. Three machines from 2100 to 2800. Happy with all of them most of the time.

My best friend has a 64 bit AMD, and an AMD powered gaming notebook. Amusingly enough the notebook has the best graphic prossesor of all our machines.

Kopopo · Post by **Kopopo** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:01 am

I have plans to upgrade to an Athlon 64 3400+ in the coming weeks. I can't wait!

Tamarik · Post by **Tamarik** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 9:13 am

I'm torn between upgrading to about an Athlon 64 3200+, finding a IIDX ASC controller or buying a Mac mini.

I just want my refund check.

sasuske · Post by **sasuske** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:15 pm

i run on somethin

Tailfeather · Post by **Tailfeather** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:09 pm

Sasuske

Baketsu · Post by **Baketsu** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 9:30 pm

Tailfeather wrote:Hello all, just wanted to ask you all of advices...

Ive been thinking for a while and, ill come up with that ill gonna make another character on another server then Pandemonium, just for fun ^^

but the only problem is this with names >.< my real weak spot.. i had already problem with the name i have now ^^;;

so my question is, do you have/or can make up some nice names and help me out with this task ill try myself to do my best ^^ and ive come up with two names i might use... "Raiki" or "Raiku" but, nvm about them, whats your suggestions? ^^ <Help Me Out!>

Also before i end this post, NO i WONT be leaving Pandemonium, i will make a NEW character, i hope i havent made too many Pande kittens confused.

I have a handy dandy English-Japanese Dictonary next to my PC, so i picked a common item, in my case "A Bucket" and found out that in japanese it is "Baketsu" so that is my name!

Tailfeather · Post by **Tailfeather** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 3:58 pm

hmm gotta find a english-japanese book then o.O eerhm does anyone have a webadrees for a dictionary?

Tailfeather · Post by **Tailfeather** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 2:32 pm

ok, i got my computer repaired ^^ so.. im gonna ask around for a wp soon

, im just not ready yet, still hunting computer parts for a new computer, and when its about a name.. well im still clueless ^^ ill dig up something hopefully

Anathema · Post by **Anathema** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:50 pm

You dont need a WP if your going to use your old characters .. you will however if you are going to start fresh .. ^^;

Tailfeather · Post by **Tailfeather** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:06 am

if you read the first post

youll understand, but to make a short review, im creating a new char, and wanna join up on midgardsommr i think

so yes i will need a wp for it

*edit*

but i will ask for it when im ready

i have some stuff to do first...

Anathema · Post by **Anathema** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:22 pm

Ah! .. (Understood.) (I'm sorry.)

Tailfeather · Post by **Tailfeather** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 5:39 pm

dun worrie it happes ^_^

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