Mithra Weakness Revealed

Crispleaf · Post by **Crispleaf** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:54 pm

I got this from the History of Vana'diel FAQ. It's supposedly constructed from in-game history (such as the stone monuments you are sent to find in that Selbina quest), various missions, and of course, collected writings from Square-Enix itself. Still, I don't know how accurate it is, but it looks pretty convincing.
http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file ... istory.txt

Anyway, they state that Promathia was the cause of weaknesses in the five races Altana created:

The elvaan, obviously, have arrogance as their weakness (being rudely insulted by Halver during the last Rank 2 mission despite being there to save his butt drives that point home, and the guards aren't friendly either).
The humes have apathy, which is believable considering their treatment of the galka.
The tarutaru have cowardice (witnessing a tarutaru "guarding" the Horutoto Ruins nearly wet himself when confronted by cardians in an early Windurst mission confirms that prejudice

).
The galka are plagued with rage as their weakness (Bastok is full of disgruntled galka).

But according to the FAQ, the mithra have "envy" as their weakness.

Envy?

I'm trying to think of situations where mithra have proven envious... but I really can't come up with anything.

Maezen · Post by **Maezen** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:59 pm

the link didn't work for me

as for envy...maybe it's beacuse we lack this

Post by **Shirai** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:32 pm

Direct linking doesn't work.

You'll have to copy and paste the adress to get the page opened.

[on-topic]
What should mithra be envious about indeed...

Kahvi · Post by **Kahvi** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:34 pm

i think you may have it mixed up...

Hume are more likely for Envy

Mithra are more likely for Apathy

(Spoiler alert)

you want proof for hume having envy... remember the one magicite memory that the hume guy was jealous of a hume girl likeing a galka over him and plotted to kill the galka? case closed.

Post by **Mystiana** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:01 pm

I can see Mithra far more apathetic than envious. I can see humes far more envious than apathetic. The story is either wrong, or the FAQ is.

Dukuji · Post by **Dukuji** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:21 pm

meh . . .

btw, it does say that mithras downfall is their apathy and Humes is their envy. Here is the direct quote:

That Silly-Unoffical-History-Write-Up-That-EveryBody-Takes-As-Scripture wrote:There was another god, awakened and watching, from his place in the shadows. Promathia, God of Twilight, angered by what he had seen saw fit to condemn her work. Bringing out each of the 5 races darkest attributes - the elvaan's arrogance, the hume's envy, the apathy of the mithra, the cowardice of the taru, and the galka's rage.

But, I really don't like that history. With no references (like the male mithra were killed in battle, where is game does it say that) I have a hard time accepting all that history write up has to offer.

Edit: Sorry for all the edits, I kept finding error is my words.

Baketsu · Post by **Baketsu** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:23 pm

It is not that the Mithra have envy. It is just that everyone envies the mithra!

Would wouldn't want to be a cool kitty cat with a cool kitty tail and cool kitty ears that wiggle to and fro.

Mithra may envy other mithra for keeping the mythical Manthas all locked away in the houses of Windurst. Apparently the mithra are keeping their males locked away for some reason, either it is for reproduction or keeping the buggywhip business alive, either way, i don't wanna know.....

Crispleaf · Post by **Crispleaf** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:05 pm

Dukuji wrote:meh . . .

If that doesn't prove mithra apathy... I don't know what does

kashell · Post by **kashell** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:38 pm

Crispleaf wrote: The elvaan, obviously, have arrogance as their weakness (being rudely insulted by Halver during the last Rank 2 mission despite being there to save his butt drives that point home, and the guards aren't friendly either).
The humes have apathy, which is believable considering their treatment of the galka.
The tarutaru have cowardice (witnessing a tarutaru "guarding" the Horutoto Ruins nearly wet himself when confronted by cardians in an early Windurst mission confirms that prejudice ).
The galka are plagued with rage as their weakness (Bastok is full of disgruntled galka).

But according to the FAQ, the mithra have "envy" as their weakness.

spoilers ahead for some people who haven't gotten far from the ZM...but here are quotes directly form the Ark Angels they make a refrence to their own race's 'weakness'

just for reference

TT - Tarutaru
MR - Mithra
HM - Hume
GK - Galka
EV - Elvaan

Lihera · Post by **Lihera** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:45 pm

^^^ If that's not scary, I don't know what is.

Crispleaf · Post by **Crispleaf** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:48 pm

Well, I guess the FAQ was right. Or at least, it had that part right.

kashell · Post by **kashell** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:49 pm

nah...this is definitely scarier

Crispleaf · Post by **Crispleaf** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:01 pm

I love Firewyrm's famous last words,

"Wow summoners"
*boom*

Post by **Alya Mizar (Tsybil)** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:56 pm

You want Mithra apathy? Look no further than Kazam where all the kitties just lay peacefully about in their RSE and tell you how more peacful they all are here in the motherland than you lowly mainland kitties.

My first thought when some Kazam kitty told me that was "If you arrre so darrrnit peaceful, how did you get big enough to wearrr that rrred outfit sisterrr?"

Lihera · Post by **Lihera** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:04 pm

Ok, definately scarier. Did it astral flow or something?

Baketsu · Post by **Baketsu** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:09 pm

Tsybil wrote:You want Mithra apathy? Look no further than Kazam where all the kitties just lay peacefully about in their RSE and tell you how more peacful they all are here in the motherland than you lowly mainland kitties.

My first thought when some Kazam kitty told me that was "If you arrre so darrrnit peaceful, how did you get big enough to wearrr that rrred outfit sisterrr?"

I just got to Kazaam and is it really the homeland of the mithra? If so could the ever more elusive male mithra be found and cat-alogued, sorry i had to pun-ish you all with that one.

Dukuji · Post by **Dukuji** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:19 pm

Hmmm . . .

. . . I've just noticed something . . . something that may prove that that History write up has at least one error in it. (Thanks to Kashell that is

)

The history says, ". . . the hume's envy, the apathy of the mithra . . ." but if Kashell is correct in saying that the Ark Angels make reference to their own race's 'weakness' then as we can see from the screen shot the mithra mentions envy and the hume mentions apathy. Hmmm . . . if my premises are correct then we have a contradiction.

Crispleaf · Post by **Crispleaf** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:43 am

Actually, the revised FAQ that I linked to correctly says humes have apathy and mithra have envy. Otherwise, I wouldn't have thought so in the first place

sasuske · Post by **sasuske** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:59 am

lolololololol

Dukuji · Post by **Dukuji** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:45 pm

Crispleaf wrote:Actually, the revised FAQ that I linked to correctly says humes have apathy and mithra have envy. Otherwise, I wouldn't have thought so in the first place

Clever is the Crispleaf . . . I can tell you're from Alexander.

Prrsha · Post by **Prrsha** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:14 pm

Yeah it's essentually the same FAQ. The typos were fixed in the newer version.

Sirc · Post by **Sirc** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:29 pm

So....what are Mithra supposed to be envious of? If it was (seriously) mentioned here I missed it.

Dukuji · Post by **Dukuji** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:31 pm

Sirc wrote:So....what are Mithra supposed to be envious of? If it was (seriously) mentioned here I missed it.

This is what I was wondering . . . in my travels it's the mithra that act very apathic towards . . . well . . . everything . . .

The humes seem more envious, they seem to want everything! They want to be more powerful then the Elvaan, have more magic then the tarus, be richer than Jeuno . . . while the mithra are content just to go hunting and wear loincloths . . .

Lihera · Post by **Lihera** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:39 pm

Rawr! Loincloths!

Anyways, it seems like the Crysta warriors got their lines mixed up. Honestly, after going around talking with the mithra of kazham, and the humes of bastok, I'm really starting to think that they switched scrpits.

Post by **Leane** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:31 pm

I would've thought our weakness was catnip.

Prrsha · Post by **Prrsha** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:47 pm

Lihera wrote:Rawr! Loincloths!

Anyways, it seems like the Crysta warriors got their lines mixed up. Honestly, after going around talking with the mithra of kazham, and the humes of bastok, I'm really starting to think that they switched scrpits.

Yeah I agree. There are some scripts that are backwards in FFXI. Take the movton NPC merchant in Windurst forrr example.

Lihera · Post by **Lihera** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:25 pm

what's wrong with: "Helgohelgo! Me bhrinks ghoodies arll ja vays fhrum hometowne of morvarpolis!"?

Ephi · Post by **Ephi** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:34 pm

if Mithra do have envy...
id say cuz all Mithran males r hiding from the female Mithras and r envious all the other races still have their males

Prrsha · Post by **Prrsha** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:47 pm

Lihera wrote:what's wrong with: "Helgohelgo! Me bhrinks ghoodies arll ja vays fhrum hometowne of morvarpolis!"?

Because when he says that you don't have control of the area. He says "I dropped all of my goods on the way" when you DO have control of morvaton. So his quotes are backwards.

Lihera · Post by **Lihera** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:08 pm

so, I take it that the beastmen have to be in control of the area in order to have access to his stuff.

To all who have actually been to morvarpolis:

What the hell dies this *$$^4#'in moblin sell?
(My my, that rhymed...)

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