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Subjob quest
Kahzam Key
Choco license
Adv Job quest depending on what job combo I decide on.
Gobbie bags...
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Meh....
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IMHO the fastest way to 30 is slightly different. RDM to 18 and the subjob quest, WHM/RDM to 30. RDM/- can solo for decent EXP/hour well beyond L 18 Flag up all the while. You have the advantage of being a healer both trips, all the way.Tivia wrote:Blm to 15 for Subjob
Whm to 30 for Adv job
That strikes me as the quickest way to 30 to get adv jobs.
Oh my yes. Both counts. /SAM is mostly past 60. Have /WAR till then at least.Tivia wrote:Dragoon/Sam
Because lets just Face it..Dragoon AF + Mithra = Hot
Sam because I think...could be wrong here its abilities as a sub enhances Drg damage output.
A hot soloing combo as is PLD/WHM. For tanking in EXP parties it is still PLD/WAR onry. For merit parties the DDing PLD/NIN is popular. There has been talk by Squenix of giving PLD a Provoke like JA.Tivia wrote:The other combo I am toying with the idea of is Pld/Rdm
Taking advantage of Stoneskin, Phalanx and such..
A PLD has superior hate holding abilities from the many little tricks it has. Provoke, Warcry, and even a quick Berserk INSTANTLY shut off are among them. Defender is more than just nice. Without /WAR a PLDs hate holding abilities would be as poor as the average NIN, if not worse.Tivia wrote:So the curing just does not generate enough hate for PLD then I take it?
Ok so then if both are /war...hmm the Debate Drg or Pld...both have interesting promise.
You're wrong, though it's not far off /WAR and still a widely used and acceptable sub.Tivia wrote:Sam because I think...could be wrong here its abilities as a sub enhances Drg damage output.
Might as well push it up a few more levels for WarpBlm to 15 for Subjob
I still prefer the PLD's to do /WAR in TP burns. /NIN just seems like a wasted space, not DDing well and you're not tanking eitherScarlettPheonix wrote:/war is still the preferred sub though- until TP burns anyway.
ScarlettPheonix wrote:....which makes for a refreshing change
{/grin}ScarlettPheonix wrote:A well equipped PLD/nin can actually do very well in a TP Burn set up and are surprisingly self-sufficient. In TP Burns, PLDs need very little babysitting, which makes for a refreshing change
Its situational. Sometimes the raw power of /WAR is needed, sometimes the Acc and damage avoidance of /SAM.Tivia wrote:So if I go Drg, /War or /Sam are really a tossup as to which is most effective?
COR does decent DPS, but is a support class. With DRG you need to look at what kind of Wivern you get as well, I believe that /COR would get you a balanced Wivern but don't know.Tivia wrote:Now here is an interesting question, how would drg stack with another dps class such as Cor? Is that just getting too far spread out as far as pairing up abilities or does that potentially yield interesting yet still viable skills?
Sounds like that DRG wasn't using his/her Jumps properly. I've always gone /WAR and I rarely take any beatings.I had a party, NOT in the mire. Me RDM/WHM, 3 melee/NIN, a BRD/NIN, a DRG/SAM. The DRG/SAM took 60% of the Cures but was neither a MP sponge nor a problem. As /WAR he would have been both.
No, remember all the rest were /NIN with Ni available. They take little damage. Also remember that when a mob wipes a shadow, hate is lost. When Sawhatever and 3rd eye kicks in just right, you counter. End result, DRG was usually hate leader with less damage avoidance than the /NINs.Sugami wrote:Sounds like that DRG wasn't using his/her Jumps properly. I've always gone /WAR and I rarely take any beatings.I had a party, NOT in the mire. Me RDM/WHM, 3 melee/NIN, a BRD/NIN, a DRG/SAM. The DRG/SAM took 60% of the Cures but was neither a MP sponge nor a problem. As /WAR he would have been both.