A question for the Mage's.

Keavy · Post by **Keavy** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:45 pm

So I was out fishing in Qufim Island getting Yellow Globes for Skillups and for leveling Alchemy when I saw a Thunder Elemental and I thought "I'm a Level 54WHM in an area with people in their 20's leveling for exp. I can take this fool."

After exhausting my MP and almost hitting Benediction I get my Thunder Cluster. Why? I COULDN'T HIT THE DAMN THING!!!

Seriously, I had a Fire Staff and I was standing two feet away and all I saw was "Miss."

So, where can I go and what can I beat up to level my skill?

Post by **Alya Mizar (Tsybil)** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:56 pm

What is your current staff skill?

And why didn't you have a hammer and shield?

Keavy · Post by **Keavy** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 2:23 pm

Tsybil wrote:What is your current staff skill?

And why didn't you have a hammer and shield?

86 I think.

I didn't have room for the Fire Staff in my Mog House so I brought it.

Should I get a shield and hammer? I still have my AF Hammer.

Post by **Leane** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:54 pm

WHMS can do alot more ph\ysical damage with a hmmer than any other weapon they can use, and 84 skill is about what those vlv 20s have in their main weapon, I think. I would recomend using a hammer and shield whle farming as a WHM, also while farming elementals don't forgetr to cast the appropiate bar-element spell

Wanta · Post by **Wanta** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:01 pm

Elementals are extremely resistant to melee damage but they are very weak to their opposing magic element. That said, cast Stone on it for massive damage.

Pheonixhawk · Post by **Pheonixhawk** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:48 am

Agentblack casts Silence on the Thunder Elemental.
Agentblack casts Stoneskin on Agentblack.
/point at Thunder Elemental.
/laugh at Thunder Elemental.
Agentblack casts Stone III on the Thunder Elemental.
Thunder Elemental takes 389 damage.
Agentblack defeats the Thunder Elemental.

Come on Keavy, once you use silence and stoneskin you can take your time and slowly torture it, or nuke it to death.

Nobodyreal · Post by **Nobodyreal** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:06 am

Of course, you want to keep in mind that elementals are virtually immune to spells of their element and the one they're strong to. Trying to silence a wind or ice elemental tends to be an exercise in futility.

Pheonixhawk · Post by **Pheonixhawk** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:22 am

<<< lvl 67 Red Mage. Silence hits EVERY time. Then again Who's teh Mater.

(yeah enfeebling at lvl 234 may do that)

Post by **Sugami** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:07 pm

Err... RDM75 (capped Enfeebling magic) I get Resists from Too Weak elementals if it's the wrong spell.

Don't need to use Stone on a Thunder Elemental, Blizzard and Fire will work just as well.

Keavy · Post by **Keavy** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:20 pm

I just use Dia II and spam Divine Magic until the elemental dies because as far as I am concerned Non-capped Divine > Capped at half-level Elemental Magic.

Sadira · Post by **Sadira** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:55 pm

I always thought whm's in general just had a harder time with elementals than the other mage jobs. Last month on my rdm I attacked a wind elemental. When it started casting Tornado I tried to silence it...twice...and then remembered why that was a waste of mp.

Tier I ancient magic doesn't hurt too much though.

Pheonixhawk · Post by **Pheonixhawk** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:40 pm

Guess I just got lucky then with silence.

Sadira · Post by **Sadira** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:15 am

Pheonixhawk wrote:Guess I just got lucky then with silence.

Silence on a wind elemental = Super Lucky

Post by **Alya Mizar (Tsybil)** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:31 am

Nobodyreal wrote: Trying to silence a wind or ice elemental tends to be an exercise in futility.

Ice? no. Wind is another story. I am L 72 RDM, I didn't have enfeebling capped again yet, but it had been capped at 71 when I took out a Wind Elemental in Tharongi canyon. They are ~ L 20 -22 there. It couldn't do any damage to me, even without Baraero, but I couldn't land Silence on it.

Pheonixhawk wrote:Guess I just got lucky then with silence.

Big time.

Nobodyreal · Post by **Nobodyreal** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:25 am

Pheonixhawk wrote:Guess I just got lucky then with silence. :lol:

If you can reliably land silence on a wind elemental at any level, you are a god among RDMs.

Keavy · Post by **Keavy** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:35 am

Okay, since we solved that, I have another question: I just reached level 56 after another killer party (NIN/WAR, WAR/NIN, Monk/WAR, PUP/WAR, BLM/WHM, WHM/BLM <-- Me) so after I get Maat some Crest (He doesn't want a toothbrush?

) should I look for a party in the Aht Urghan areas or am I better off staying in Jeuno for a few more levels?

Please let me know. My LS's are too busy with internal drama to answer.

Eviticus · Post by **Eviticus** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:55 am

Personally, what I do is if I want to just sit on my hands and lfp, I plop down in Aht Urgan with my HP set there and lfp. You can always use the warp taru to get to Jeuno fast, it's harder to go the other way around. And if you do make the trip to jeuno just to find out the pt has disbanded or whatever, just warp back.

But generally I find it better off to lfp while doing something active, like profit synthing or soloing. ^.^

Post by **Alya Mizar (Tsybil)** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:12 pm

I think that about L 56 is when people start EXPing on Puks. Good EXPs, and cheap as you don't eat while fighting Puks. They stael food effects.

Do what Evictus said.

Nobodyreal · Post by **Nobodyreal** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:32 pm

Actually it's Colibri that steal food effects. They've also got an annoying TP steal attack.

Puks have AoE knockback and blink moves.

Eviticus · Post by **Eviticus** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:25 pm

There are two kinds of Colibri you should be aware of.

Lesser Colibri have TP Moves which can reset target's tp to 0, a semi-powerful multi hit attack, and a move which removes the target's food effect.

Actual Colibri, not the lesser ones, are of course a bit more powerful. Also, any spell cast on them which they survive, they automatically recast on the person who cast it. Like if the Pld flashes them, they flash the pld. If someone casts Diaga, it drops a Diaga on the whole pt, and so forth.

If Colibri weren't some of the easiest buggers to kill, no one would fight them cause they're such pricks.

Post by **Alya Mizar (Tsybil)** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:31 pm

Oh rrright, I meant Lesser Colibri.

Post by **Sugami** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:36 pm

I thought they reflect magic on whoever they have hate towards.

I use food on colibri you just have to be very careful about hate management but I always am 'cause I'm not one of those /NIN pussies