Valkurm dunes

[Tianshii]

And now it's time for Tian's 2 cents!
Firstly, hoorah for that post on soloing to lvl 20... I'm going to try that next job I decide to start.
On to the PL~ For people playing for the first time, I think it's better they learn their jobs without a PL. While that may take longer, it absolutly helps make you a better player on that job in the end.
"All the time" PL is okay for people who maybe quit and came back and had to start a whole new character. I know I did that for a friend of mine when he returned (teehee, ma sexeah samurai).
Recently I've started NIN. I also started WAR to compliment my NIN. My main job is 75SMN (w/ a side of 68whm when the spirit moves me), so pounding mobs is something I don't often get to do. I learned that... OMG TANKING IS FUN! So when my party got a PL, I was sad because that meant no more using my lil "Kiss this <t>!!! *moons the <t>*" provoke macro. I gotta say it feels good when the BLM gets too friskey w/ the nukage...mob turns to eat the BLM...me:PROVOKE!...and I stop that bad thing from happening
So...here and there PL is good and fun but... as with anything good and fun~ moderation is key

[Sylphine]

I don't know...but a friend of mine said :

A NIN as main job has 3 shadows. If the mob already hit you twice, be sure to cast Utsusemi since the casting will end right after the mob deliver the third hit to you.

I'm not sure, but that's what my friend said about the NIN.

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btw, about the WHM food when your lv is under 30.

If you need a lot of MP, go for Rolanberry Pies, they have the most MP plus al low lv.

If you need a quick MP when resting, go for ginger cookies. (11g a piece, that makes 1089g a stack)

If you need int, go for melon pies. (But surely...WHM won't need the int)

[Kintrra]

I don't know...but a friend of mine said :

A NIN as main job has 3 shadows. If the mob already hit you twice, be sure to cast Utsusemi since the casting will end right after the mob deliver the third hit to you.

I'm not sure, but that's what my friend said about the NIN.

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btw, about the WHM food when your lv is under 30.

If you need a lot of MP, go for Rolanberry Pies, they have the most MP plus al low lv.

If you need a quick MP when resting, go for ginger cookies. (11g a piece, that makes 1089g a stack)

If you need int, go for melon pies. (But surely...WHM won't need the int)

I don't know, I've met some WHMs with rather low INT...and I don't mean their in-game attribute.

As for NIN, the only problem with that is that a lot of times, even with maxed Evasion (like mine is from playing PLD so long) and a lot of Evasion+ (Emp pin, Nomad's Tunic, and a lot of Beetle+1 gear) you still usually take a lot more hits than the 3 shadows inside that 30 seconds before recast. But yeah, Utsu:Ichi = 3 shadows, Utsu:Ni = 4. So tanking as NIN is making sure you can dodge anything thrown at you as much as possible, and keeping track of your shadows. Past that, Provoke like mad, spam Hojo and/or Kurayami, and also your elemental spells if you can. Or at least that's what I've learned leveling it to 27. ^^

[Keavy]

The other things that PLing creates:

You get the BLM who casts Fire. Then Water. Then Stone. Then...you get the idea. Keep in mind there's like a 3 second break between these spells and their MP is drained before the mob has hit the halfway point. This creates massive amounts of hate (Keep in mind that at lower levels hate is hard to keep) and this doesn't do much damage since most of those spells hit for roughly 10-20 damage.

What I do (Which I find works much better) is I use one spell. For crabs, Thunder. I use it, backup heal if needed while waiting for Recast, use it again. Not as much hate is built and with the +INT I get from Equipment and my pies I can do 60-80 damage in the low 20's which balances out to DoT the DD's are doing and at the end of the fight I have a fairly good MP pool.

Then there's our good friend, the Ninja who only uses Utsusemi. I know tools are expensive, but that's the price you pay for doing your job. I'm not asking that you use every spell in your arsenal, just use some. Kuriyami, (Sp?) or as I call it "Ghetto flash," because it blinds the enemy which helps you when it comes to recasting your shadows PLUS since the enemy gets in fewer hits those shadows last longer!

Can't leave out the WHM who tries to play RDM. He starts off the fight with countless enfeebles and divine spells while the tank is massacred leaving the backup healers to do his job. Worst part is the enfeebles are either resisted or run out far too soon and the mob lives longer because the backup healer's can't nuke the mob.

Then we have the DD's who try to tank. You know the ones, with their low DEF high STR, ACC and ATK gear that pull hate then scream at the healers to save them while the tank struggles to regain hate. Yeah, I love them about as much as root canals.

Then there's the "Summoner can main heal" crowd. In their defense, Summoners can replace a WHM at main healing, just doesn't mean that they always should. Why? Basically, if the Summoner is level 36 you have a level 18 WHM with a massive MP pool and while it can work out great, just remember if things go FUBAR a WHM can use a higher tier Cure and Benediction to save the day while a Summoner cannot.

P.S. To the Monk's: If you're not in the Skillchain, please save your TP for Shoulder Tackle to stop AoE moves. As a healer let me tell you: This will make your healers VERY HAPPY.

[Alya Mizar (Tsybil)]

Um...when he said pies I thought Rolanberry pies...+MND and +MP...I've always used those when leveling my WHM (weak as it is) ^^;;

Rolanberry Pie; Duration: 30 mins, MP +50, Agility -1, Intelligence +2.

Roast Mushroom; Duration: 30 mins, MP +10, Strength -1, Mind +3, MP Regeneration While Healing +2, Enmity -1.

Ginger Cookie; MP Regeneration While Healing +5, Plantoid Killer, Resist Slow.

[Kahvi]

my favorite food has and it seems always will be sweet rice cakes

Sweet rice Cake:
Duration: 30 minutes
Stacks to: 12
MP: 17 VIT: 2 INT: 3 MND: 1
HP regen while healing: 2
MP regen while healing: 2

[Cosma]

Keavy said

P.S. To the Monk's: If you're not in the Skillchain, please save your TP for Shoulder Tackle to stop AoE moves. As a healer let me tell you: This will make your healers VERY HAPPY.

Yeah, i'm glad i'm doing something right. Although it does get annoying if the Mob aggs and does AoE while your trying to get to it in order to stop it (Qufim Worms anyone?)

[Sugami]

I don't know, I've met some WHMs with rather low INT...and I don't mean their in-game attribute.

good one

I don't know...but a friend of mine said :

A NIN as main job has 3 shadows. If the mob already hit you twice, be sure to cast Utsusemi since the casting will end right after the mob deliver the third hit to you.

I'm not sure, but that's what my friend said about the NIN.

There's some truth in that. Utsusemi: Ichi gives you 3 shadows regardless of whether NIN is main or sub. Therefore before NINs get Utsusemi: Ni they should learn how to use Ichi properly.
The common tactic is having a fresh set of 3 shadows before a mob is pulled, then on losing the 2nd shadow you start casting again leaving the final shadow for casting time then you get another 3 shadows. This only works at the start of the fight since your timer won't be ready for the next time you are down to 2 shadows. Most basic of ninja "skills"

[Keavy]

In Qufim/Jungles/Citadel you get the "It's my subjob" crowd and as we all know, asking them to half-ass it is often too much.

No offense, but even if it is my subjob or something I just play for fun I look to do my best. If you hate leveling your sub that much and want to get back to leveling your main you'd think these people would want to get as much experience per hour as is possible with as few deaths as possible.

Then again, it has been firmly established that I am insane.

[Sugami]

no what you said is sound and logical, shame others aren't

[Kintrra]

Yeah, the whole "it's just a sub" attitude makes me wanna leave pts at times. And then hopefully find people who are leveling the job to actually level it, whether it's as a sub or not. Fortunately, this particular kitty hasn't ran into that problem too many times yet. ^^

[Yukira]

I must admit, sometimes while leveling a subjob I don't like playing at all (BLM for my WHM sub actually) I tend to play half-heartedly meaning that while I try to do my best in the party I'm not just 'in the mood' with everyone else and tend to be just quiet...