Kill Bill I & II.Sugami wrote: and Uma... I can't think of any films she's done that have decent martial arts scenes
I know its a dumb question
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Oh that piece of crap 
swordplay isn't quite martial arts but nevermind, it's more-so in Kill Bill Vol.2 with the training scenes (best part of both the films in my opinion) but most of the whole gorey sword scenes the camera is moving too hectically and can barely see anything over all that blood, not that good in my opinion 
swordplay isn't quite martial arts but nevermind, it's more-so in Kill Bill Vol.2 with the training scenes (best part of both the films in my opinion) but most of the whole gorey sword scenes the camera is moving too hectically and can barely see anything over all that blood, not that good in my opinion 
Objection! (idea for that taken from another thread)Sugami wrote:Oh that piece of crap
Swordplay is as much a martial art as unarmed combat. True mastery of the sword comes from it being an extension of your body and soul.
If you said Gun-play. Then I would agree.
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Objection!Kahvi wrote: Objection! (idea for that taken from another thread)
Swordplay is as much a martial art as unarmed combat. True mastery of the sword comes from it being an extension of your body and soul.
If you said Gun-play. Then I would agree.
That may be true however... unfortunately martial arts may use weapons (such as swords) BUT that is only part of the form and therefore is not a martial art in itself! HAHA!
Also fencing is not a martial art but is more of a sport
Objection!
You forget Kendo. Also, unarmed combat is also only part of marial arts.
True martial arts is more than just combat. It is a way of life. It is unity of body, mind, and soul. In training to use combat techniques, one learns self dicipline and the importance of restraint. Combat as not a means to and end, but a last resort when all possiblity of alternatives is gone.
You forget Kendo. Also, unarmed combat is also only part of marial arts.
True martial arts is more than just combat. It is a way of life. It is unity of body, mind, and soul. In training to use combat techniques, one learns self dicipline and the importance of restraint. Combat as not a means to and end, but a last resort when all possiblity of alternatives is gone.
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Objection!Kahvi wrote:Objection!
You forget Kendo. Also, unarmed combat is also only part of marial arts.
True martial arts is more than just combat. It is a way of life. It is unity of body, mind, and soul. In training to use combat techniques, one learns self dicipline and the importance of restraint. Combat as not a means to and end, but a last resort when all possiblity of alternatives is gone.
Kendo is Japan's version of fencing, again it's more of a competitive sport and training in the use of a sword than a martial art.
Martial Arts came about as a form of self defense, therefore I put it to you that swords were designed as offensive weapons rather than to be used to protect one's self QED not martial arts. Whereas the most common form of Karate is self-defense in unarmed combat only, "Karate" meaning "Empty Fist".
I'm probably wrong but it's fun to argue a point in this manner
Objection!Sugami wrote:Objection!Kahvi wrote:Objection!
You forget Kendo. Also, unarmed combat is also only part of marial arts.
True martial arts is more than just combat. It is a way of life. It is unity of body, mind, and soul. In training to use combat techniques, one learns self dicipline and the importance of restraint. Combat as not a means to and end, but a last resort when all possiblity of alternatives is gone.
Kendo is Japan's version of fencing, again it's more of a competitive sport and training in the use of a sword than a martial art.
Martial Arts came about as a form of self defense, therefore I put it to you that swords were designed as offensive weapons rather than to be used to protect one's self QED not martial arts. Whereas the most common form of Karate is self-defense in unarmed combat only, "Karate" meaning "Empty Fist".
I'm probably wrong but it's fun to argue a point in this manner
My point of martial arts being more than just combat was not addressed by your rebuttal. In addendum, martial arts contains weapon forms for more common items, Bo staff can easily be replaced with walking stick, swords replaced with golf umbrellas, Tonfa replaced with short thick broken tree branches, Nunchaku replaced with two gophers biting a lenght of a torn shirt, et cetera et cetera.
((I concur on your hypothesis that submitting an argument to this form has some humor value. Furthermore, I find it easier to make a rebuttal based on the material contained.))
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Nanda tou?! (What?!)Kahvi wrote: Objection!
My point of martial arts being more than just combat was not addressed by your rebuttal. In addendum, martial arts contains weapon forms for more common items, Bo staff can easily be replaced with walking stick, swords replaced with golf umbrellas, Tonfa replaced with short thick broken tree branches, Nunchaku replaced with two gophers biting a lenght of a torn shirt, et cetera et cetera.
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I believe I didn't need to address your rebuttal due to me stating the nature of martial arts in the first place but yes some forms of martial arts do go beyond combat.
Most weapon uses in martial arts came about via the use of every day farming tools. A long time ago in China when the Emperor outlawed the ownership of weapons for people other than the royal guard, farmers would protect their land with what they had available; a sickle attacked to a chain, two pieces of wood connected together via a piece of rope or chain (AKA Nunchaku, Nunchucks are plural
) looked like an innocent farming tool to the casual observer but deadly in the right hands. Other forms of weapon disciplines were taught for purposes of war and battles hence disciplines not martial arts
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I guess I missed my turn while i was off fighting gigas for Northern Furs and watching christopher walken skits on snl...
ah well. back to finding lightning crystals.
ah well. back to finding lightning crystals.
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