The New FFXI Expansion Will Suck

Batsu · Post by **Batsu** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:12 pm

So says Ms. Cleo and myself.

Discuss.

Kailea · Post by **Kailea** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:04 pm

I am all for opinions...but you are just wanting to start something -.-

Eviticus · Post by **Eviticus** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:22 pm

There is much speculation as to this new expansion. New areas which Squeenix has most graciously lead us on about, a new job which has been -intensely- speculated about from about 5 seconds of a preview.

Opinion and speculation so far is merely that, speculation.

Batsu · Post by **Batsu** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:40 am

There is much speculation as to this new expansion. New areas which Squeenix has most graciously lead us on about, a new job which has been -intensely- speculated about from about 5 seconds of a preview.

Opinion and speculation so far is merely that, speculation.

- Eviticus

This is, undoubtedly, a fact. However, with what we were given with the ever so poor, Chains of Promathia, I don't expect much with this.

To what Kailea said . . .

Queue Irish Accent.

You wanna' fight about it?

Prrsha · Post by **Prrsha** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:01 am

Batsu wrote:This is, undoubtedly, a fact. However, with what we were given with the ever so poor, Chains of Promathia, I don't expect much with this.

I didn't think CoP was poor. But then again I am not you (thank god).

Post by **JediKitsune** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:22 am

If not only for some of the awesome equipment that came with the CoP expansion, I'd say it was pretty good.

Kuaru · Post by **Kuaru** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:03 am

its something new, so it cant be that bad. new content is always nice to keep things alive, even if for a short while.

btw, lmao at yur avatar kitsune!! XD

Post by **Shirai** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:31 am

Batsu wrote: This is, undoubtedly, a fact. However, with what we were given with the ever so poor, Chains of Promathia, I don't expect much with this.

Guess you never got passed the promyvions, never saw Attowah Chasm or Uleguerand range.

Anyway, enjoy your time in WoW.

Kotomo · Post by **Kotomo** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:01 pm

They said at E3 they were going to include new jobs in the upcoming expansion. But that's all they said, so we can at least expect some new jobs. Sounds very exciting to me.

And heck, I wish I had more time to play through the game but I aslo have to lvl up in order to get through it. The story to the game is definetly intriguing me.

Kiren · Post by **Kiren** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:37 pm

I wouldn't say that it's going to suck, but it's going to be lacking! I am excited about new jobs, but thats about it..

Yugi · Post by **Yugi** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:40 pm

they added a ghost ship...

scary..

Post by **Karou Ariyen** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:26 pm

Ya Batsu you would know a lot about sucking.... *coughWoWcough* *rimshot* but seriously, I kid~

Yugi · Post by **Yugi** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 10:17 pm

KarouKaniyashia wrote:Ya Batsu you would know a lot about sucking.... *coughWoWcough* *rimshot* but seriously, I kid~

heehee karou your so funny.

Sabre · Post by **Sabre** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 10:40 pm

I just like all the speculation that occurs whenevr a new expansion pack is debuted. The truth is none of us know and we want to think it will be good. I laugh at all these people who say "hell ya Blue Mage, we can do *abilityA* or *abilityb*" Sorry folks, do not get your hopes up, this isnt single player anymore and much balancing will be needed if this Blue Mage really does exist and it isnt some NPC for a cutscene or something. I laugh when I hear people mention Blue Mages getting Spike Flail as their 2 hour. Truthfully, I would see this job being limited like a SMN with BP Timers, we will get low level TP attacks and they would feel like a weaker version of a RDM wearing equipment that a BRD would wear.

I am looking forward to another good storyline. Each expansion has brought a bigger and better one. Sure if you skip like every cutscene and not care you would be foolish to think CoP was terrible, hell the last CS for CoP made it worth everything, the end song was cool!

And that ghost ship looks cool... I want to fight real ghosties, like transluscent races..

Yugi · Post by **Yugi** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:51 am

i bet their lik 75+ monsters...

Post by **Alya Mizar (Tsybil)** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:55 pm

Then there will be the new places, the scenery, and the opening of the Tenshido's Jeuno - Norg - New city line.

We can see a Selbina - Mahara class ship leave Norg. There is a Tenshido dock in Jeuno, and specluations like these, from hints and a few facts excites me.

And then there will be new monsters too. I have this dreadful feeling that the Flamingos in Sky look EXACTLTY like the Vultures in the Gustabergs.... I want to see it all.

Eviticus · Post by **Eviticus** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:33 pm

"And then there will be new monsters too. I have this dreadful feeling that the Flamingos in Sky look EXACTLTY like the Vultures in the Gustabergs.... I want to see it all."

I'm.....umm.....not exactly sure what you mean. Of course they do. Why would they look any different? Just because it's {sky} doesn't make them all NM's or something. ^.^;

In fact, I have a video clip of a pair of 69Drg/Whm's soloing Flamingo's in {sky}. Impressive stuff.

Dogma · Post by **Dogma** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:57 am

Shirai wrote:
Batsu wrote: This is, undoubtedly, a fact. However, with what we were given with the ever so poor, Chains of Promathia, I don't expect much with this.
Guess you never got passed the promyvions, never saw Attowah Chasm or Uleguerand range.

Anyway, enjoy your time in WoW.

All things considered... COP is considered a poor expansion.
Look at pretty much any review, or check out the general mood in any major FFXI fourm. Meh.. it's not bad, /em slowly making his way through..
I suppose Ill get past most of it eventually, but there has been soooooo much other stuff to do my intrest is waining. Diablos here I come for you!

Oddly enough a poll on Ki of 3371 takers show only 11% beaten it
and 34% still havent gotten past the promies. 43% have not "beaten" but no indication on what mission the majority are still on. Although I'd guess most are post Promy. and nothing more.

I wonder what SE thinks about COP, it sucess, ect... Id say by the fact thet put stuff like Enm, Jse gear, and that Pallas ring in which is all cop required, they are really trying to encourage people to do it. Something thet didnt have to do for RoZ

Post by **JediKitsune** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:32 am

KI is... kinda full of morons though like Allakhazam, right?

Post by **Shirai** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:05 pm

Dogma wrote: All things considered... COP is considered a poor expansion.
Look at pretty much any review, or check out the general mood in any major FFXI fourm. Meh.. it's not bad, /em slowly making his way through..
I suppose Ill get past most of it eventually, but there has been soooooo much other stuff to do my intrest is waining. Diablos here I come for you!

Indeed considered,
CoP is not just something you can walk through like a breeze like the Zilart missions and rank missions with "High" level help.
(Yes I'm also guilty of helping friends out with rank and zilart missions, simply because most don't even try to think about helping out without being payed XX gil. >.<)
In my opinion CoP is more of a challenge then any other mission or quest in this game because the level caps make sure that you use your own abilities to get through them.
In most CoP missions there is no "High" level help.
Which in my opinion makes CoP a very good expansion.
To some it might not be because they're used to having a lvl 60+ holding their hands and killing everything in their path.
Or constantly hire a 70+ to solo that NM for them. (I'll leave the thought of where that gil came from to your own imagination)
Now they have to think for themselves.... work themselves ow teh horror.

Unlike most rank or zilart missions a lot of CoP missions need a lot of advance organization and research so they mostly can't just be done with a random Jueno /shout party.
Linkshell linkshell I love you!

Yes CoP takes a longer time and yes there are more interesting things in this game.
But you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover and read the story before you give your opinion.

I wonder what SE thinks about COP, it sucess, ect... Id say by the fact thet put stuff like Enm, Jse gear, and that Pallas ring in which is all cop required, they are really trying to encourage people to do it. Something thet didnt have to do for RoZ

I don't know about RoZ since I am one of the EU release players that started when CoP just came out.
But for the players who played this game before RoZ came how long did it take before RoZ was actually completed after it came out?
Also a lot of new gear came out AFTER the release of RoZ.
I think they had the plans for ENMs and those goods for a long time,
fact is SE has just recently completed the CoP storyline. and with the october update we might even get more interesting stuff.

There's some other things bugging me as well,
word has gone round in my LS that SE might raise the level cap again with the new expansion.
Small details like new things in the auto transelator.
Example: {Utsusemi-San}{Refresh II}{Gravity II}
lvl 50+ Exp update anyone?

So will this new expansion suck or bring more adventure?

Post by **Karou Ariyen** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:48 pm

THe Majority of people who said CoP sucked, are either still stuck on promy's, or wanted something they could walk through and finish on a weekend. The Point of CoP was to provide challenge to the players, something most dont get, and if you seriously believe half the sh*t on KI ..... Trust me, When i discovered them a while back i found they were mostly morons O.O

Yugi · Post by **Yugi** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:03 pm

Kuaru · Post by **Kuaru** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:19 am

forgive teh kitty for her ignorance, but what does KI stand for? the first thing i think is Korruption Inc...

Kintrra · Post by **Kintrra** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:40 am

Killingifrit.com that would be ^^

Yugi · Post by **Yugi** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:27 pm

more like killingfinalfantasy.com

Batsu · Post by **Batsu** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:49 pm

Square-Enix - All your real life are belong to us.

Aony · Post by **Aony** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:57 am

Batsu wrote:Square-Enix - All your real life are belong to us.

I'm afraid I never had a real life. Nothing to take from me.

Kessa · Post by **Kessa** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 2:43 pm

I just got past the promy's and have been exploring all the area of CoP, and I enjoy it. I also have no problem w/ Zilart either. The people that are doubting it havent done but the bare minimum of the quests and skip through the cutscenes. But its there loss.

Everyone is entitled to a opinion, and there is my 2 cents.

Dogma · Post by **Dogma** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:28 pm

Shirai wrote:
Dogma wrote:

I wonder what SE thinks about COP, it sucess, ect... Id say by the fact thet put stuff like Enm, Jse gear, and that Pallas ring in which is all cop required, they are really trying to encourage people to do it. Something thet didnt have to do for RoZ
I don't know about RoZ since I am one of the EU release players that started when CoP just came out.
But for the players who played this game before RoZ came how long did it take before RoZ was actually completed after it came out?
Also a lot of new gear came out AFTER the release of RoZ.
I think they had the plans for ENMs and those goods for a long time,
fact is SE has just recently completed the CoP storyline. and with the october update we might even get more interesting stuff.

There's some other things bugging me as well,
word has gone round in my LS that SE might raise the level cap again with the new expansion.
Small details like new things in the auto transelator.
Example: {Utsusemi-San}{Refresh II}{Gravity II}
lvl 50+ Exp update anyone?

So will this new expansion suck or bring more adventure?

I used to think that to,but then when they finished cop, and released that ring as a award, alarms went off in my head. See it's well known in MMO's that if area's in you game aren't being utlized you add quests and rewards to it to get people there. (this is actually in the mmo bible... ahhhhh must find link, I was reading it 3 weeks ago, Ill dig in my history and see if I can find it) weather you like Cop or not dosent change the fact it is horribly under used in the game by the majority of the player base, just do a /sea of most of it areas.
funny thing is most of my friends are now wary of the new expansion now, theyre afraid of another "Cop" comming out.
in game is all the proof you need.

Post by **JediKitsune** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:21 pm

There's some other things bugging me as well,
word has gone round in my LS that SE might raise the level cap again with the new expansion.
Small details like new things in the auto transelator.
Example: {Utsusemi-San}{Refresh II}{Gravity II}
lvl 50+ Exp update anyone?

Utsu:San and some of these other spells people keep bringing up are used by Dynamis mobs. They're in the game, but they're not accessible to players.

people can also now use an 'auto-translate hack' that basically lets them put whatever they want into auto-translate brackets.