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This story takes supportive parenting to a creepy new level.
There's a young lady named Sunny Lane. She lives with her parents who are also her managers. Her parents claim they are no different than Jessica Simpson's manager/dad and they fully support their daughter and her career and Sunny compares herself to Shirley Temple.
You might be wondering "Well, what's so creppy about that?" I'll tell you. Sunny Lane is an adult film star. Yes, that's right. She does porn and works part-time at a legal brothel in Nevada. Her parents run her site, they're working on her "Real Doll" now, and they watch her films, yet they "Fast forward through the sex scenes." Her mother calls her scenes "Dates" as in, when she's working she'll tell her mom "Yeah, I got four dates tonight." Creepy enough yet?
But yeah...I'm not making this up. This is real. She's a real adult actress and I have seen her "Performing" and, in my honest opinion, she's awful. The IT guy at my job is one of her biggest fans and he showed me a documentary that featured her and her parents, which is where I got my information from and that's why I checked her out.
Now, my parents are somewhat supportive. They're supportive in that realistic way. I know that if they choose not to support me that it probably means I have a snowball's chance in hell of actually succeeding. The good thing about this is that I know that when they're behind me that they see that I am serious and do honestly believe that I will succeed. That said, there's no way my parents would ever be as supportive at all if I or my sister chose to go into any sort of adult entertainment related industry. Not because they don't believe that we could be great at this, but because its such a destructive industry.
I have a friend who is gay who says that he can't understand why people think homosexuality is a conscious decision. Like he says "Why would any sane person choose to be something that is vilified and hated by so many?" I think the same rationale applies to the porn industry. What sane person would choose to have sex with other people in front of a camera? I'm not saying that the people that set up a handicam on their dresser are insane, but think about it. You're choosing a career where you honestly can't have a normal or stable relationship.
I'm a pretty easygoing guy and I have no problem with my girlfriends having male friends, but no matter how much I love a girl there's no way I'd be comfortable with her having sex with other men or even women, for that matter for any reason. Stripping or posing nude for a website/magazine I would be uncomfortable with, but my feelings would depend on whether or not she hid it from me. I wouldn't expect her to come out on the first date and say it, but if she hid it from me and I heard about it six months into the relationship from a friend or coworker that would be a deal-breaker right there. End of relationship. I wouldn't feel comfortable being with someone who hid things like that from me.
So, what do you guys/gals think about this? I think her parents are the types that never say no. I knew kids like that growing up. You know where most of them are now? Six feet under or behind bars. They either pissed off the wrong person, overdosed, or were arrested for attacking someone who wronged them, stealing, or drug possession. No kidding.
My dad was a military man as were both my grandfathers, who served our country in WWII. One of the reasons I am such a history buff and so interested in WWII is mainly because of this. Anyways, back to my point. My parents were the "Iron fist in a velvet glove" types with my mom being the iron fist and my dad being the velvet glove, most of the time. He did discipline when needed but as long as we weren't causing trouble he was totally cool. My point is that I think that effective parents need to set boundaries and be supportive when its merited and above all, be honest. Think about how screwed up my life would be right now if my mom and dad supported me at nine years old when I wanted to grow up to become a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle.
They did buy me the Ninja Turtle action figures and related paraphernalia for my birthday/christmas, go with me to see the movies, and bought me two copies of the first film and one of the second because I wore out my first copy of the first film. By the time the replacement and the copy of the second movie were nearing the end of their lives I had moved on to the power rangers. What can I say? The pink ranger was hot and I was about thirteen when that show premiered.
You might be wondering "Well, what's so creppy about that?" I'll tell you. Sunny Lane is an adult film star. Yes, that's right. She does porn and works part-time at a legal brothel in Nevada. Her parents run her site, they're working on her "Real Doll" now, and they watch her films, yet they "Fast forward through the sex scenes." Her mother calls her scenes "Dates" as in, when she's working she'll tell her mom "Yeah, I got four dates tonight." Creepy enough yet?
But yeah...I'm not making this up. This is real. She's a real adult actress and I have seen her "Performing" and, in my honest opinion, she's awful. The IT guy at my job is one of her biggest fans and he showed me a documentary that featured her and her parents, which is where I got my information from and that's why I checked her out.
Now, my parents are somewhat supportive. They're supportive in that realistic way. I know that if they choose not to support me that it probably means I have a snowball's chance in hell of actually succeeding. The good thing about this is that I know that when they're behind me that they see that I am serious and do honestly believe that I will succeed. That said, there's no way my parents would ever be as supportive at all if I or my sister chose to go into any sort of adult entertainment related industry. Not because they don't believe that we could be great at this, but because its such a destructive industry.
I have a friend who is gay who says that he can't understand why people think homosexuality is a conscious decision. Like he says "Why would any sane person choose to be something that is vilified and hated by so many?" I think the same rationale applies to the porn industry. What sane person would choose to have sex with other people in front of a camera? I'm not saying that the people that set up a handicam on their dresser are insane, but think about it. You're choosing a career where you honestly can't have a normal or stable relationship.
I'm a pretty easygoing guy and I have no problem with my girlfriends having male friends, but no matter how much I love a girl there's no way I'd be comfortable with her having sex with other men or even women, for that matter for any reason. Stripping or posing nude for a website/magazine I would be uncomfortable with, but my feelings would depend on whether or not she hid it from me. I wouldn't expect her to come out on the first date and say it, but if she hid it from me and I heard about it six months into the relationship from a friend or coworker that would be a deal-breaker right there. End of relationship. I wouldn't feel comfortable being with someone who hid things like that from me.
So, what do you guys/gals think about this? I think her parents are the types that never say no. I knew kids like that growing up. You know where most of them are now? Six feet under or behind bars. They either pissed off the wrong person, overdosed, or were arrested for attacking someone who wronged them, stealing, or drug possession. No kidding.
My dad was a military man as were both my grandfathers, who served our country in WWII. One of the reasons I am such a history buff and so interested in WWII is mainly because of this. Anyways, back to my point. My parents were the "Iron fist in a velvet glove" types with my mom being the iron fist and my dad being the velvet glove, most of the time. He did discipline when needed but as long as we weren't causing trouble he was totally cool. My point is that I think that effective parents need to set boundaries and be supportive when its merited and above all, be honest. Think about how screwed up my life would be right now if my mom and dad supported me at nine years old when I wanted to grow up to become a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle.
They did buy me the Ninja Turtle action figures and related paraphernalia for my birthday/christmas, go with me to see the movies, and bought me two copies of the first film and one of the second because I wore out my first copy of the first film. By the time the replacement and the copy of the second movie were nearing the end of their lives I had moved on to the power rangers. What can I say? The pink ranger was hot and I was about thirteen when that show premiered.
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Well, she's not a child, but it is still extremely creepy.
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Pardon me if I think your views on this are shaped by growing up in a puritan country, the USA.
Porn is a business. Legal and everything.
I read an article about prostitution in Europe, where it is legal. It was a positive article. It featured an interview with a German prostitute and her supportive parents. Think about that.
I approve of the parent's decision to support their daughter's carer, although I would never chose that particular carer myself.
Perhaps you think that they should have thrown her out and disowned her? Would that be a better choice? It would certainty fit better with our national view about things sexual.
Personally I see an unhealthy bit of "Stage Mother" in the whole thing, but creepy? Nope.
Rent "Gypsy" the musical about Gypsy Rose Lee, or, more accurately, about her mother and their relationship.
Porn is a business. Legal and everything.
I read an article about prostitution in Europe, where it is legal. It was a positive article. It featured an interview with a German prostitute and her supportive parents. Think about that.
I approve of the parent's decision to support their daughter's carer, although I would never chose that particular carer myself.
Perhaps you think that they should have thrown her out and disowned her? Would that be a better choice? It would certainty fit better with our national view about things sexual.
Personally I see an unhealthy bit of "Stage Mother" in the whole thing, but creepy? Nope.
Rent "Gypsy" the musical about Gypsy Rose Lee, or, more accurately, about her mother and their relationship.
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I wouldn't have kicked her out but I wouldn't be proud of it.Tsybil wrote:I approve of the parent's decision to support their daughter's carer, although I would never chose that particular carer myself.
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I think that parents taking pride in such a carer would be some kind of hight in human understanding and... um... I don't think I know a word for what I mean in English but agape comes close. Just personal and family instead of general and mankind.Keavy wrote:I wouldn't have kicked her out but I wouldn't be proud of it.Tsybil wrote:I approve of the parent's decision to support their daughter's carer, although I would never chose that particular carer myself.
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Tsybil, your "puritan country" comment made me giggle because you're right!
Then I thought... what squares people can be and laughed harder.
Anyway, I wouldn't do porn but hey.. if what you are doing is legal who am I to judge? If I don't like it, I don't have to watch it or be a part of it.
The same goes for "gays". I have no problem with them... well maybe I get upset when I see a cute guy with another cute guy and think... no fair!!! I work with some gay peeps and they are, perhaps, even more fun then the straight ones!
Porn is legal. There is quite a bit of money to be made. If I ever had a kid and that was their passion... Well,I would ask them why out of curiosity... but if was their dream and their passion... what else can a parent do but be supportive? I don't know if I would try to be their manager... and I surely wouldn't watch the event lol but at least this chick has a manager she can trust, I would think.
When I was choosing what to do for a living my father picked on me and said I wouldn't make any money at it...
Well I'm not making six figures, but I have a steady job and hours I like. I live in a decent area and have money left over to save. I'm doing well.
Much better then he is.
There are all kinds of people in this world. As long as they aren't harming others, let them do what makes them happy.
Then I thought... what squares people can be and laughed harder.
Anyway, I wouldn't do porn but hey.. if what you are doing is legal who am I to judge? If I don't like it, I don't have to watch it or be a part of it.
The same goes for "gays". I have no problem with them... well maybe I get upset when I see a cute guy with another cute guy and think... no fair!!! I work with some gay peeps and they are, perhaps, even more fun then the straight ones!
Porn is legal. There is quite a bit of money to be made. If I ever had a kid and that was their passion... Well,I would ask them why out of curiosity... but if was their dream and their passion... what else can a parent do but be supportive? I don't know if I would try to be their manager... and I surely wouldn't watch the event lol but at least this chick has a manager she can trust, I would think.
When I was choosing what to do for a living my father picked on me and said I wouldn't make any money at it...
Well I'm not making six figures, but I have a steady job and hours I like. I live in a decent area and have money left over to save. I'm doing well.
Much better then he is.
There are all kinds of people in this world. As long as they aren't harming others, let them do what makes them happy.
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Porn? Eh, you won't see ME doing it, but still, it's a business, same as any other, what someone chooses to do with their body is their business. I see what these parents are doing as being proper, supporting their child in her chosen profession. Something a LOT of parents/kids lack these days. Most kids are basically thrown out and told to fend for themselves. No support, no encouragement, but by god some parents will sure as hell push you to be what THEY want you to be, and if you're not adding up to what they think you should've, then they nearly disown you. It's sad that so few people realize that America is headed down this path I might add.
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I bet you if I looked I could find 5 instances of Parent <-> Child crime operations. Not anything big, but them cooperating to hold up a store or something. Why do people get bothered about family cooperation with something legal, when it's easy to find something a family is doing illegal?
There are people who support the porn industry and making prostitution legal. There are people who have children. Sometimes these are the same people. And yes, sometimes those who are both are even supportive of their children.
America was founded by Puritans who took over and clensed a barbaric land filled with peaceful and warring tribes of "natives"(I hate that word, but we can discuss that in another thread.) I just hope that one day we throw off the "morally superior" shackles left on by the religious right and concentrate on what -truely- harms society.
There are people who support the porn industry and making prostitution legal. There are people who have children. Sometimes these are the same people. And yes, sometimes those who are both are even supportive of their children.
America was founded by Puritans who took over and clensed a barbaric land filled with peaceful and warring tribes of "natives"(I hate that word, but we can discuss that in another thread.) I just hope that one day we throw off the "morally superior" shackles left on by the religious right and concentrate on what -truely- harms society.
In the end, I'm just talking out of my ass. So take it all with a grain of salt.
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I think it's creepy that they're so involved in her career to the point of watching her movies. That's sounds much too much like perversion. Supportive is cool, though.
Nothing wrong or even inherently odd in public sex for humans. It's actually pretty damn normal for our species. I'm a child of my culture, so I've never indulged personally -- but there were a couple times PDA was nearly x-rated. I could easily see how folks could cross that line without hardly batting an eye.
Nothing wrong or even inherently odd in public sex for humans. It's actually pretty damn normal for our species. I'm a child of my culture, so I've never indulged personally -- but there were a couple times PDA was nearly x-rated. I could easily see how folks could cross that line without hardly batting an eye.
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That was my biggest issue with the story. It just seems really really weird.Okuza wrote:I think it's creepy that they're so involved in her career to the point of watching her movies. That's sounds much too much like perversion. Supportive is cool, though.
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{true Strike}Keavy wrote:That was my biggest issue with the story. It just seems really really weird.Okuza wrote:I think it's creepy that they're so involved in her career to the point of watching her movies. That's sounds much too much like perversion. Supportive is cool, though.
In all honestly. This country was found on puritan beliefs. There's no getting around that, but two things irritate me.
1. Why the hell do her parents watch her videos? I know being supportive is good and all, helps self esteem and everything.
2. Why the hell do we even care about what other people do with their lives. She's making pornography movies for a living. Who cares? Let that IT man watch the flick he wants to and you watch your own. Make everyone happy.
Well. If everyone followed that rule. Lets just say Cuba wouldn't be what it is today and we wouldn't be involved in Iraq. Maybe the same could go for Vietnam.
But, meh. Continue on.
Tianshii wrote:well maybe I get upset when I see a cute guy with another cute guy and think... no fair!!!
Yeah I get that when I see a guy with a girl who's miles out of his league
BTW Tsybil it's spelt "career" and "height"
The parents don't watch the actual sex scenes, the fast forward past it so that's not so creepy... but what else is there in porn? Cheesey lame plot? Bad acting? They might as well just not bother watching.
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Ah, but I've already decided I'm not right enough in the head to be a father. So :p, I don't have to make that choice.
In the end, I'm just talking out of my ass. So take it all with a grain of salt.
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pfff I wouldn't care, then again, i refuse to have little hellspawn of me running around.
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