What ever happened to the old Valkurm *groan*

Post by **Alya Mizar (Tsybil)** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:23 pm

Undine wrote:/ma "Cure IV" <t>

Ummmm... you have to tab around a bit to target the bogey THEN:

Undine wrote:Bogy takes 150 damage

me:

I suppose /ma "Cure II" <bt> would work, never tried it though.

Post by **Sugami** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:56 pm

I still hate <bt> for macros.
Anyways if you're engaged the <t> macro works fine, you can even type it out manually, I find you can leave out the <t> if you want to cast the spell on what you have targeted.

Euro · Post by **Euro** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:02 pm

Tsybil wrote:
I suppose /ma "Cure II" <bt> would work, never tried it though.

Sadly Cure II does nothing really good for damage, hell Cure V only does like 300+ damage

Post by **Alya Mizar (Tsybil)** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:31 pm

Euro wrote:Sadly Cure II does nothing really good for damage, hell Cure V only does like 300+ damage

Not good damage but better healing skillups than PLing. I put PLing right up there with watching paint dry anyway.

Kopopo · Post by **Kopopo** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:50 pm

Hi all!!

I was whining about this on the shell the other night. I'm only lvl 10 and I'm starting to feel I'm useless as a WHM. Please, tell me I'm wrong!

Keavy · Post by **Keavy** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:02 pm

Kopopo wrote:Hi all!!

I was whining about this on the shell the other night. I'm only lvl 10 and I'm starting to feel I'm useless as a WHM. Please, tell me I'm wrong!

Right now you're kinda weak but as you level you'll gain new spells and gain power. Before long you'll be a healing force to be reckoned with. Monsters will tremble in fear at the awesome healing power you can conjure. You will laugh at their feeble attempts to bring down the tank.

Soon padawan you will learn the true power of the WHM!!!

Kopopo · Post by **Kopopo** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:46 am

I've taken WHM to 54 already. Even then I felt useless.

Post by **Alya Mizar (Tsybil)** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:44 am

Kopopo wrote:I've taken WHM to 54 already. Even then I felt useless.

I never felt useless as WHM. Just unaprecaited.

Time for BLM? SMN? BLU? BRD? Melee Taru? In any event you know your fastest path to a subjob is WHM, so grit your teeth.

Kopopo · Post by **Kopopo** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:51 am

Actually, I'm no longer a Tarutaru.

Pheonixhawk · Post by **Pheonixhawk** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:47 am

You might think your useless as a whm because Whm is just a support job. Not a DD. Yeah you heal your party and casts buffs and a small amount of enfeebles, but you really dont see the effects on the mob. At least thats why I didnt' (And still dont) like the whm job. In fact Ive got Blm to lvl 20, Rdm to lvl 41 and whm to lvl 1. Thats right its still lvl 1. I have full respect for all white mages but I will never be one. I enjoy doing damage, and If im not doing damage I love casting enfeebles and just watching the enemy get hammered by my party members. (And casting a good nuke or two)

Kopopo · Post by **Kopopo** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:39 am

The thing is, I actually *like* being a healer! In every game I play, except StarCraft, I am a healing class. I tend to sub a DD class like BLM, but never WAR or it's various other forms.

Post by **Shirai** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:56 am

Let me tell you whm is all but a useless class.

It is underapreciated yes, but still I find it one of the most fun classes to play.
WHM at 54 yes the early 40's till mid 50's was a time I felt a bit useless.
I also wondered what the use was of continuing the grind.
EXP needed to level up rose to inhumane amounts (Pre-patch) and those levels had almost nothing to offer.
Party invites plummeted down, because of a simple reason.
RDMs get refresh, convert and raise and Parties tend to swap the whm for a rdm main healer and get in an extra DD.
Until 56 where whm gets raise II.

All I can say is if you really like the job, just grind through those levels.
Around level 60 you get more invites for the funner stuff like higher rank missions and zilart missions.
You'll feel less useless when you reach level 56 and up.
But since you restarted you'll probably have a long way to go, but I'll gladly advise you on your journy if you have any questions.

Post by **JediKitsune** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:53 am

Useless? Hardly.

You know you're helping those chains along when you're keeping your party members up and fighting. Though it is nice to only cure a little...

Several times in the jungles, I've actually kept my parties alive with Regens and Cure Is. Then again, those were NIN parties and everyone else was doing their best... Even so, it made me feel smart.

Post by **Sugami** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:56 am

Maybe he's feeling down 'cause of all the PLs making his job a bit pointless at the moment? ^^;

Post by **Alya Mizar (Tsybil)** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:26 pm

Kopopo wrote:Actually, I'm no longer a Tarutaru.

OK, I'll bite, Mithra this time?

Keavy · Post by **Keavy** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:31 pm

Sugami wrote:Maybe he's feeling down 'cause of all the PLs making his job a bit pointless at the moment? ^^;

I hated that when I was leveling my WHM in the Dunes. After a while my Healing skill fell WAY behind and my Cure's were suffering as a result so I just spammed Cure I each fight. Hate was all over the place but before long my skill was where it should be.

Needless to say, those PLer's HATED me

Kopopo · Post by **Kopopo** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 3:12 am

Sugami nailed it square on the head.

Tsybil, yesh.

Post by **JediKitsune** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 4:31 am

Because of PLs, my Divine skill is capped and my Healing skill has always lagged behind.

Pheonixhawk · Post by **Pheonixhawk** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:31 am

Only time I really get to lvl my healing skills is when I have to main heal in the party. My divine magic is still at lvl 0 tho

Kopopo · Post by **Kopopo** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:33 am

Even soloing my healing is lagging.

Pheonixhawk · Post by **Pheonixhawk** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:34 am

Id try to lvl up healing but I cant even log on to play

Post by **Shirai** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:04 am

If the PL is your big beef try and talk to him/her about it.

What I did in early whm levels was set an agreement with the PL that he/she would only watch the tank and I would watch the rest of the party.
Or I would do the healing and the PL would only be healing if stuff went wrong.
I would never allow a PL to tank, Nins with Gimp evasion skill, or Paladins with uber low shield skill and parrying skill by the time you reach Garlaige citadel (where PLs usually end) is horrible.

Tho I've had people asking me to PL them mid 40's early 50's -.-
And no, I don't PL not so much because I am against it which I am but it's also boring as hell.

Post by **Sugami** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:10 am

My healing skill is way gimp but I don't care 'cause I'm not a healer

Divine Magic skill, hmm... RDM get 0 Divine Magic spells native to their job, guess that's for subbing WHM but with such a low skill level and pretty damn useless spells anyways just why bother?

Post by **Alya Mizar (Tsybil)** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 2:41 pm

Sugami wrote:My healing skill is way gimp but I don't care 'cause I'm not a healer
Divine Magic skill, hmm... RDM get 0 Divine Magic spells native to their job, guess that's for subbing WHM but with such a low skill level and pretty damn useless spells anyways just why bother?

/WHM and Banish things. It will rise.

Kintrra · Post by **Kintrra** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 3:19 pm

PLD74, my Divine stays capped and I think my healing is about to hit 200, makes for some fun....now if I could get my enhancing magic to start going up a bit quicker...it's at like 119. XD

Post by **Alya Mizar (Tsybil)** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:23 pm

Kintrra wrote:PLD74, my Divine stays capped and I think my healing is about to hit 200, makes for some fun....now if I could get my enhancing magic to start going up a bit quicker...it's at like 119. XD

Wait till the 20th. Go to lowbie zones. Spam Protect on all the little BSTs, CORs and PUPs soloing to 10.

Pheonixhawk · Post by **Pheonixhawk** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:59 am

OMG! A alarming 8 pages

I had no Idea this thread would get this long. Or have so many views and get over 100 replies.

Undine · Post by **Undine** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:58 pm

Ladies behold! *pulls a curtin away showing the dunes* The end is here! *all you see is Blus, Pups, and Cors, and the occisonal Tank and mage.* Told ya

Kopopo · Post by **Kopopo** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:21 pm

Make the bad go away!

Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:28 pm

Great time to be leveling something other than PUP, COR, or BLU.

MithraPride

What ever happened to the old Valkurm groan