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Our new tank job is...*Drumroll* WAR!
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:12 pm
by Keavy
http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?pager ... Id=3164472
Second page, third paragraph.
Have fun with your role as tanks, WAR's!
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:15 pm
by Sugami
Ye of little faith, what did I say?
Tune in next week for another exciting episode of, "Su knows best"
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:36 am
by Rishutlaw
WHY!?!?!?
how can they become more like tanks WHEN THEY ARE TANKS?
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:48 pm
by Alya Mizar (Tsybil)
Why? Because they are the best candidate for the job.
Why? Because few ever tank as WAR past 30 and far fewer past 50. And the why of that is that WAR/MNKs take too much damage and the WAR/NINs can't hold the hate.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:08 pm
by Sugami
SE also said they wanted the tank role to move around the party, so it also seems that the new "counter"-esque ability will be sub-able.
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:39 am
by Ambrey
What do you think we had for tanks before Paladins came out...
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:23 pm
by Vatrina
Can I vote "I don't care cuz I'm never touching WAR again anyway"?
Either way, I doubt it'll befall the community to start using WARs as tanks, even with a fresh counter ability. The concept of an "Invincible NIN" is way too ingrained in the way the game is played to start using squishy WARs as tanks.
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:26 pm
by Sugami
They never intended this to make WAR the uber tank and even said it still wouldn't be that useful for HNM and stuff. I think the general idea is allowing a WAR to tank where there are no NINs and PLDs available.
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:34 pm
by Keavy
WAR and PLD use a lot of the same gear and WAR/MNK properly geared isn't that squishy.
As a WHM who is tired of being bored out of his mind in NIN and /NIN heavy parties I support the return of meat shield tanking.
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:41 pm
by Alya Mizar (Tsybil)
Keavy wrote:As a WHM who is tired of being bored out of his mind in NIN and /NIN heavy parties I support the return of meat shield tanking.
Funny, as a RDM I LIKE being bored silly in those 20k/hour NIN and /NIN heavy parties.
Current favorite setup. Me - RDM/WHM, BRD/NIN, pick any 4: WAR/NIN, MNK/NIN, NIN/WAR, DRG/NIN, SAM/NIN. But I do want two vokes out there.
But I don't pass up parties that are not like this. Nor do I ***** about 8K/hour or only getting chain 36.
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:23 pm
by Okuza
LOL -- this was a dumb move by SE -- as if WAR needs any more bonuses. It already tanks more than fine at any level. You just need to gear it to tank. It won't matter what new JAs it has if people don't gear it for tanking.
And what about the under 40 levels? People aren't going to delevel their WAR37 just to go tank for newbie groups.
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:00 pm
by Keavy
Tsybil wrote:Keavy wrote:As a WHM who is tired of being bored out of his mind in NIN and /NIN heavy parties I support the return of meat shield tanking.
Funny, as a RDM I LIKE being bored silly in those 20k/hour NIN and /NIN heavy parties.
Current favorite setup. Me - RDM/WHM, BRD/NIN, pick any 4: WAR/NIN, MNK/NIN, NIN/WAR, DRG/NIN, SAM/NIN. But I do want two vokes out there.
But I don't pass up parties that are not like this. Nor do I ***** about 8K/hour or only getting chain 36.
I accept them because I love the fast merits but I don't like them. Skillchaining off of Trolls with a PLD tank is heaven for me; slow exp or not.
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:38 am
by Sugami
My WAR couldn't tank for diddly-squat around 50 and I was geared with the highest DEF stuff and using Fish Kebobs, only thing I didn't have was VIT rings.
Actually from what SE that it seems that WAR's counter ability will be subbable so that other jobs aren't forced into /NIN (or /SAM at a lesser extent) in merit parties.