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Silly Drk
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:40 am
by Pheonixhawk
I probably should of Stopped when I had 300% TP.
I probably should of Stopped when I used Beserk.
I probably should of Stopped after using Last Resort.
I probably should of Stopped wen I used Soul Eater.
Andwhen You do all 4, and hit the mob for 212 dmg at lvl 33 you can say your prayers goodbye.

Drk Death FTW!!
(3 Voke and the WHM spamming cure III could not save my arshe

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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:55 am
by Karou Ariyen
212 dmg? compared to my war's damage that's weak xD
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:22 pm
by Sugami
Turn Soul Eater, Last Resort and Berserk off numbnuts

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:50 pm
by Eviticus
loldeath
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:04 pm
by Stockyboy
loldrk
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:26 pm
by Keavy
lol lol
He sounds like every DRK I've ever partied with. "Hey, look at all the damage I can do!" Five seconds later, DRK is laying on the ground.
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:06 pm
by Eviticus
Good Drk's can deal a shitload of damage, great ones can do so without being beaten down by the mob afterwards.
You can replace Drk in the above sentance with any melee, really.
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:06 pm
by Stockyboy
Eviticus wrote:Good Drk's can deal a shitload of damage, great ones can do so without being beaten down by the mob afterwards.
You can replace Drk in the above sentance with any melee, really.
My evasion has been capped since level 50. Does that make me a good Drk?
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:29 pm
by Shirai
How many times did you have to bite the dust for that?
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:15 pm
by Kintrra
Stockyboy wrote:My evasion has been capped since level 50. Does that make me a good Drk?
Shirai wrote:How many times did you have to bite the dust for that?
My PLD's Evasion was capped at every level too. And I usually bit the dust a few times per level.

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:58 pm
by Alya Mizar (Tsybil)
Eviticus wrote:Good Drk's can deal a shitload of damage, great ones can do so without being beaten down by the mob afterwards.
You can replace Drk in the above sentance with any melee, really.
Not quite. Most melees only have Berserk to lower Def. DRKs have so many ways to lower Def. With Soul Eater, Last Resort and Berserk all on, gobbies don't need the bomb to take a DRK out, all they need to do is sneeze.
Kintrra wrote:My PLD's Evasion was capped at every level too. And I usually bit the dust a few times per level.

I thought PLDs had the evasion of a tree. Maybe because I play PLD as an Elvaan. Perhaps a Mithra PLD has the evasion of a brick, that would be an improvement.
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:44 pm
by Pheonixhawk
Believe it or not, that was the first time ive died from it. (And it wasnt' the first time Ive done it) Secondly, It only did 212 dmg, because slice is a super weak ws. Btw Karu what lvl is your war anyways? Bet it higher than my Drk, cause so far I can out DD any war in my party that iv'e come across. I can't stack Souleater with Nightmare Scythe of Shadow of Death. Has to be a pysical move. But it wasnt the 212 spike dmg that pulled so much hate. It was me not turning souleater off, or Berserk, and hitting it normally for 112 dmg 3 more times afterward
P.S. Sugami, normally I never leave souleater on, but I was always curious as to what would happen

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:40 am
by Bitneko
Lucky people, being able to do that much damage. Highest I ever did was 147 on an IT Crawler with backhand blow.
Comes with being DoT I guess .

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:20 am
by Kintrra
Tsybil wrote: 
I thought PLDs had the evasion of a tree. Maybe because I play PLD as an Elvaan. Perhaps a Mithra PLD has the evasion of a brick, that would be an improvement.
Well, the trick there lies in the fact that you can skill up Evasion as long as you're being swung at. Hit or no hit is possible to skill evasion. So if you're a good tank, you'll cap it one way or another.

Well, as long as you're in the right area for your skill level on evasion.

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:54 am
by Stockyboy
Shirai wrote:How many times did you have to bite the dust for that?
Enough. But my capped evasion has helped a bunch soloing EPs for skill ups.
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:17 pm
by Sugami
Pheonixhawk wrote:Btw Karu what lvl is your war anyways? Bet it higher than my Drk, cause so far I can out DD any war in my party that iv'e come across.
Crappy poser WARs, seriously at that level there should be barely anything in it.
Once the WAR gets Aggressor they'll be doing more than you but only due to missing less (unless you always fight weak mobs that are easy to hit)
P.S. Sugami, normally I never leave souleater on, but I was always curious as to what would happen

Besides the increased damage Souleater practically has Provoke built into it, though I don't know the specifics I get the feeling the longer you keep it on the more hate it'll pull.
Stockyboy wrote:My evasion has been capped since level 50. Does that make me a good Drk?
Was DRG that capped my evasion, was always lagging when I was leveling NIN for some funny reason

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:56 pm
by Keavy
I get good evasion skillups if I try to save the DRK's like Pheonixhawk.

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:27 pm
by Tivia
You know this inspires an interesting question concerning DRK.
I do not know much about the job other then every single one I ever grouped with was a tard, but what level is Soul eater? If it has that much hate associated with it can drk make a good sub for a War wanting to keep absolute hate? Was rather curious about that after reading about how much aggro it seems to pull.
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:42 pm
by Pheonixhawk
Souleater is a lvl 30 job ability. It drain's 10% of your HP, and gives it to your next attack. Souleater itself count's as a provoke. But that's not what gives you the hate. For example:
(in Garliage Citiadel last night)
Pld was hitting the Siege bat for 10-16 dmg.
The war with the Great Axe was hitting for 36-49 dmg
Nin was hitting for gimpy 5-11 dmg
whm was curing
Drk (myself) was hitting for 67-101 dmg
Drg was hitting for 27-36 dmg
Now the Pld is already fighting for hate that can be lost by a single provoke, however If I use soul eater thats one provoke...+ 10% dmg increase. Meaning instead of doing 67 dmg and crit for 101 dmg. I was hitting for 73 - 110 dmg with normal and crit strikes. Now imagine me using a WS just as I use Souleater which can easily (depending on TP) can put me at 189 dmg+ Thats a whole lot of hate. Not to mention, everytime you hit the mob, it is draining 10% of your current hp (So no souleater will not kill you) and then the IT mob is smacking you with all its might. And it really sucks if you have beserk and last resort on, because then, your getting hit for an additional 30-50 dmg.
That is why Souleater is such a dangerous move to use. Almost not worth having, but at the same time, it has saved myself and my parties a couple of times in the past.
(Oh and PS. I did 192 dmg with drk using slice + souleater + beserk + last resort, along with +12 STR. Now imagine adding Sneak Attack into the mix?

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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:36 am
by Keavy
Souleater will come in handy later. From what I hear in later levels its totally worth it for the better WS.
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:42 am
by Stockyboy
SE+SA+Spinning Slash can break the 1.5k mark easily.
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:35 pm
by Sugami
What was that DRG using? A Lv1 polearm? Against bats he has the advantage and should be matching your Scythe damage at the very least.
Soul Eater is gimped as a sub, damage wise at least. WAR has Provoke and Warcry as far as hate tools goes, their damage also helps them keep hate if they really wanted.
I read somewhere about a Galka WAR/MNK who only used Great Axe all the way to 75 and tanked for quite a lot of it too, think it'd probably be too hard for Mithra and Taru to do though

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:36 pm
by Eviticus
Mmmm, maybe. As a Drg even against flying mobs, I wouldn't expect one of my melee hits to out damage a Drk. However, combine the fact I'm faster, probably more accurate, my Wyvern keeps building damage, and I have jumps? I'd be a shitty Drg if I didn't out damage the Drk in the end.
This is on a flying mob, of course, just stating.
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:02 pm
by Sugami
Well~ if you're going /WAR and have Berserk up a lot and the DRK likes to /THF your standard damage will be almost identical.
It shouldn't have been as low as PheonixHawk stated though

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:14 pm
by Chaoskitten21
any drk worth his/her scythe knows that souleater is best saved for when using weaponskills.for example i normally use souleater+last resort+berserk+vorpal scythe,then after i hit i switch em off before i hit again or the mob can hit me.against IT colibris i can,depending on luck,do an average of around 200-250 damage against IT colibri.note i said luck,vorpal scythe,like other WS similar to it,has a chance to deal critical damage.i once did over 500 damage to a IT robber crab with high defense in kuftal tunnel.never done that much damage since lol
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:45 pm
by Eviticus
Colibri=lolSlashing. >.>
Times like that I wanna see them make a spikey scythe, just to see what kind of damage a Drk WS with the piercing bonus can get on one of those.
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:26 pm
by Pheonixhawk
Sugami wrote:Well~ if you're going /WAR and have Berserk up a lot and the DRK likes to /THF your standard damage will be almost identical.
It shouldn't have been as low as PheonixHawk stated though

The dmg is coming from a drg two lvl's lower, plus that was the dmg without crit's included, and without his wyvern dmg. So no, im pretty right on about the numbers. I believe everyone wasnt doing potential dmg in Garbage Sh*tadel when they were lvl 31-32. But after lvl 33 they got way easier. lol. None the less, lvl 41 Dark Knight now. When do learn a new WS ><
Normally I only use Beserk, Last- Resort, and Souleater when I have TP for a weapon skill. Then I immediately take it off so I don't die. But like I said, I was just curious to see what happened if I had left it on.
(P.S I don't think that Drg was using food. I however was using Meat Mithkabobs.)
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:00 pm
by Shirai
Pheonixhawk wrote:
The dmg is coming from a drg two lvl's lower, plus that was the dmg without crit's included, and without his wyvern dmg. So no, im pretty right on about the numbers. I believe everyone wasnt doing potential dmg in Garbage Sh*tadel when they were lvl 31-32. But after lvl 33 they got way easier. lol. None the less, lvl 41 Dark Knight now. When do learn a new WS ><
Normally I only use Beserk, Last- Resort, and Souleater when I have TP for a weapon skill. Then I immediately take it off so I don't die. But like I said, I was just curious to see what happened if I had left it on.
(P.S I don't think that Drg was using food. I however was using Meat Mithkabobs.)
Citadel = bats, bats have a natural weakness to piercing so I'm not surprised that he outdamaged you.
Rangers, Thiefs and Dragoons rip those to pieces.
Moving on to beetles you'd both probably do the same.
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:24 pm
by Sugami
Pheonixhawk wrote:(P.S I don't think that Drg was using food. I however was using Meat Mithkabobs.)
That'd explain it then

Attack food vs No food hmm~
Shirai wrote:Citadel = bats, bats have a natural weakness to piercing so I'm not surprised that he outdamaged you.
Rangers, Thiefs and Dragoons rip those to pieces.
He was saying he was out-damaging everyone else, not the other way around
Speaking of lolDRKs, DRK in party yesterday was omgsuck. I didn't realise it at first but he was using no JAs (Soul Eater, Last Resort, Berserk) and the only magic I saw him use was Stun

His gear seemed okay (though I didn't examine him) and he was using a Great Sword, always did Frostbite or Freezebite (forget which one), think Power Slash or Hard Slash is better

Not even sure if he was using food

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:54 pm
by Alya Mizar (Tsybil)
[quote="Pheonixhawk(P.S I don't think that Drg was using food. I however was using Meat Mithkabobs.)[/quote]
Try Rice Dumplings sometime.
Meat Mithkabob:
Strength +5
Agility +1
Intelligence -2
Attack +22% (Cap: 60@272 Base Attack)
Rice Dumpling:
HP +17
Strength +3
Vitality +2
Agility +1
Attack +20% (Cap: 45@225 Base Attack)
Ranged Attack +30% (Cap: 45@150 Base Ranged Attack)
HP Regeneration While Healing +2
MP Regeneration While Healing +2
Accuracy +5
Resist Paralyze