MithraPride

I'm having a terrible time logging into POL...on both accounts and both systems.

Just wondering, is anyone else having this problem? I hope its not just me

It's not. I dc'd about an hour ago and I've had no luck since.

Sanzou wrote:It's not. I dc'd about an hour ago and I've had no luck since.

One of my accounts is "Retreiving messages..." for the past half hour.

I can't get on either... fucking figures, servers always go down when I actually have time to play...

I just tried and got a POL Update thing going.

*edit* After the POL Update, I can't connect. Bleh.

Josiejo wrote:I just tried and got a POL Update thing going.

I got that earlier too...Updated and restarted...then it totally wouldn't let me in.

I already did the update but it still wont connect.

Probably already knew this, but here's the official announcement:

From : PlayOnline Information Cetner

Apr. 19, 2005 08:05 [PDT]

PlayOnline Technical Difficulties (Apr. 19)

Currently we are experiencing login difficulties with PlayOnline. The issue is currently being addressed, and we will post new information as it becomes available.

We deeply apologize for the inconvenience.

Crispleaf wrote:Probably already knew this, but here's the official announcement:

From : PlayOnline Information Cetner

Apr. 19, 2005 08:05 [PDT]

PlayOnline Technical Difficulties (Apr. 19)

Currently we are experiencing login difficulties with PlayOnline. The issue is currently being addressed, and we will post new information as it becomes available.

We deeply apologize for the inconvenience.

IT'S ON FIARR!@!!!11~!`

According to several threads I've been reading on Alka, it looks to be a another DDoS attack. This time on the PoL server.

From:PlayOnline
Apr. 19, 2005 10:00 [PDT]

PlayOnline Server Maintenance (Apr. 19)

We are experiencing login difficulties with PlayOnline. To address this issue, PlayOnline maintenance will be conducted at the time shown below. During this period, PlayOnline, Tetra Master and FINAL FANTASY XI will be unavailable.

We deeply apologize for the inconvenience.

[Date&Time]
Apr. 19, 2005 from 11:00 to 15:00 (PDT)
*Maintenance completion time may be subject to change.

[Affected Services]
PlayOnline

Crispleaf wrote:From:PlayOnline
Apr. 19, 2005 10:00 [PDT]

PlayOnline Server Maintenance (Apr. 19)

We are experiencing login difficulties with PlayOnline. To address this issue, PlayOnline maintenance will be conducted at the time shown below. During this period, PlayOnline, Tetra Master and FINAL FANTASY XI will be unavailable.

We deeply apologize for the inconvenience.

[Date&Time]
Apr. 19, 2005 from 11:00 to 15:00 (PDT)
*Maintenance completion time may be subject to change.

[Affected Services]
PlayOnline

... -_-

I'd like to /kill the people doing these attacks...

Okay, who in the hell is doing these lame ass DDoS attacks? I say we all gather together, grab some large blunt objects, find this person or persons, and beat them senseless.

They should do the patch today instead of tomorrow, so we don't have two downtimes.

Prrsha wrote:According to several threads I've been reading on Alka, it looks to be a another DDoS attack. This time on the PoL server.

For some reason alla is down for me...

Neoshinobi wrote:

Prrsha wrote:According to several threads I've been reading on Alka, it looks to be a another DDoS attack. This time on the PoL server.

For some reason alla is down for me...

Alla's down for me too,
I didn't notice POL or FFXI this time though,
cause my desktop's all @#$*ed up , it's gonna take me a couple days toget it back going good. All I have for now are my laptop, which unfortunelatly doesn't support FFXI, and my PS2, which has neither network adapter nor HDD.

Neoshinobi wrote:

Prrsha wrote:According to several threads I've been reading on Alka, it looks to be a another DDoS attack. This time on the PoL server.

For some reason alla is down for me...

Alka is just laggy because everyone that is normally in game is spamming Alka with refresh requests since they are bored.

Prrsha wrote:

Neoshinobi wrote:

Prrsha wrote:According to several threads I've been reading on Alka, it looks to be a another DDoS attack. This time on the PoL server.

For some reason alla is down for me...

Alka is just laggy because everyone that is normally in game is spamming Alka with refresh requests since they are bored.

"OMG ITS DOWN!!!!1`"

"ITS ON FIAR!!!"

"OMG THEIR ATCKING IT!@!"

"ITS TEH GILSELLERS!!!~1"

I'd like to take a different approach and look at the brighter side of POL being down...and also take the defense of the "DDoS attackers."

First off, how do we know for a fact that someone on the outside is "attacking" POL and FFXI servers? Do we just assume it's true because "Sqauare-Enix" says so? Maybe it could be an internal problem ... who knows.

But let's assume that what we've read is true, and someone is "attacking" Play Online...

Would you rather have a person(s) come in and give us a week and 1/2 of slight errors, or would you rather have some person(s) come in and seize control of POL , delete everyone's characters, and leave with no trace or means of stopping another similar attack.

My belief is that "hackers" that are "attacking" POL are actually helping Square-Enix. They are currently showing the holes in the their code and allowing S-E to prepare proper defenses and prevent such another attack. Doing this will prevent a catastrophic hole in which someone who is actually malicious will come in and, pardon my French, really f*** our sh*t up.

The fact of the matter is, these people who are causing our login issues, were more than likely hired or will be hired by S-E to help beef up their internet security, which I, for one, would be completely thrilled about...who better to have running your network team, than the people who defeated it to start with? The FBI goes by this same principle when they arrest those who hack them.

While I do agree with you guys in that I wish I could be playing Final Fantasy XI right now, but the brighter side is...our security is getting stronger by the second.

On a similar but separate note, casinos have a policy -not- to hire anyone who manages to steal or otherwise cheat since they consider it a comprimise to security. Those crazy casino people!

Sanzou wrote:On a similar but separate note, casinos have a policy -not- to hire anyone who manages to steal or otherwise cheat since they consider it a comprimise to security. Those crazy casino people!

Well actually, I don't think they're crazy at all...when an employee steals money, they just get fired...try to understand that the internet is a digital world and there is a much different definition of security.

Sorry to confuse you

Anybody else having trouble? Cause I am.

Neoshinobi wrote:Anybody else having trouble? Cause I am.

Sanzou gives Neoshinobi a consolance cookie.

Everyone is having trouble. =(

PoL is up forrr me.

colbwa wrote:Would you rather have a person(s) come in and give us a week and 1/2 of slight errors, or would you rather have some person(s) come in and seize control of POL , delete everyone's characters, and leave with no trace or means of stopping another similar attack.

DDoS attacks don't work like that (fortunately). As some of us may or may not already know DDoS stands for Distributed Denial of Service. A standard DoS attack consists of one machine sending too much data or packets to the server causing it to crash or not let other clients connect. This is easily dealt with by ignoring certain machines that send too many packets in x amount of time. DDoS is this on a wider scale, multiple machines spamming the server with packets but each machine is still within the limits making this almost impossible to counter.

I don't see why SE would make something up about attacks, doesn't serve them any purpose to lie about this kind of thing and they did not tell us immediately either.

I doubt the person or persons (probably latter) behind these attacks would want to work for FFXI ^^;

I managed to get in after half a day ;_; and was only in for half hour or so :'(

S-E allows less bandwidth for Quetzalcoatl because less people play there.

I think these problems witht he servers stem from problems with the Chinese goverment doing an area wide DDOS attack on Japan


Link Taken from Slashdot http://games.slashdot.org/games/05/04/1 ... ml?tid=209


Stolen from that article,

It's funny, I don't remember seeing any anti-Japan or anti-Western sentiment from the Chinese in FFXI.

Monday nights we have our usual "why the Chinese government sucks and all its officials must be tortured to death in public" seminars in Lower Jeuno. There's always active participation in these from all sides, although our friends from the PRC generally display a level of bloodlust towards their own rulers that we in the west find incomprehensible. We really think they enjoy being able to hear our accounts of what it's like living in a free society, though. They always promise to share the good news with their neighbours.

Wednesdays are "Free Tibet" nights. We march around Bastok for a couple of hours shouting slogans and demanding immediate Chinese withdrawal from Tibet. Turnout usually numbers in the thousands.

Fridays are "Support an independant Republic of China!" night. This is where we celebrate a free, independant Taiwan and look forward to the day where it's finally in a position to take-over the mainland. This generally involves leaflet campaigns on the airships and the boats between Mhaura and Selbina. There's nothing quite like a captive audience.

Saturdays and Sundays are generally too weighed down by the human rights symposia for any organised demonstrations.

Now... if only somebody sufficiently senior in the Chinese government can read this post, maybe we can finally get rid of all those damned gil-sellers. ^^

Looks like FFXI went crazy or something, first I get kicked...Ok, it was bound to happen sooner or later considering the amount of lag...So I try to get back on and...

FFXI error

Unable to connect to area

or something like that...Ok some bug...wait a couple minutes...
and a new message...

Unable to find POL ID.... -.-

wtf!

Several FFXI servers are down for maintenance ATM.

Prrsha wrote:Several FFXI servers are down for maintenance ATM.

Said just "down" not to long ago...