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>_< another credit card scam...

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Note, the callers do not ask for your card number; they already have it. This information is worth reading. By understanding how the VISA &MasterCard Telephone Credit Card Scam works, you'll be better prepared to protect yourself.

One of our employees was called on Wednesday from "VISA", and I was called on Thursday from "Master Card".

The scam works like this: Person calling says, "This is (name), and I'm calling from the Security and Fraud Department at VISA. My Badge number is 12460. Your card has been flagged for an unusual purchase pattern, and I'm calling to verify. This would be on your VISA card which was issued by (name of bank). Did you purchase an Anti-Telemarketing Device for $497.99 from a Marketing company based in Arizona ?" When you say "No", the caller continues with, "Then we will be issuing a credit to your account. This is a company we have been watching and the charges range from $297 to $497, just under the $500 purchase pattern that flags most cards. Before your next statement, the credit will be sent to (gives you your address), is that correct?"

You say "yes". The caller continues - "I will be starting a Fraud investigation. If you have any questions, you should call the 1- 800 number listed on the back of your card (1-800-VISA) and ask for Security.

You will need to refer to this Control Number. The caller then gives you a 6 digit number. "D o you need me to read it again?"

Here's the IMPORTANT part on how the scam works. The caller then says, "I need to verify you are in possession of y our card". He'll ask you to "turn your card over and look for some numbers". There are 7 numbers; the first 4 are part of your card number, the next 3 are the security Numbers' that verify you are the possessor of the card. These are the numbers you sometimes use to make Internet purchases to prove you have the card. The caller will ask you to read the 3 numbers to him. After you tell the caller the 3 numbers, he'll say, "That is correct, I just needed to verify that the card has not been lost or stolen, and that you still have your card. Do you have any other questions?" After you say No, the caller then thanks you and states, "Don't hesitate to call back if you do", and hangs up.
You actually say very little, and they never ask for or tell you the Card number. But after we were called on Wednesday, we called ba ck within 20 minutes to ask a question. Are we glad we did! The REAL VISA Security Department told us it was a scam and in the last 15 minutes a new purchase of $49799 was charged to our card.

Long story - short - we made a real fraud report and closed the VISA account. VISA is reissuing us a new number. What the scammers want is the 3-digit PIN number on the back of the card. Don't give it to them. Instead, tell them you'll call VISA or Master card directly for verification of their conversation. The real VISA told us that they will never ask for anything on the card as they already know the information since they issued the card! If you give the scammers your 3 Digit PIN Number, you think you're receiving a credit. However, by the time you get your statement you'll see charges for purchases you didn't make, and by then it's almost too late and/or more difficult to actually file a fraud report.

What makes this more remarkable is that on Thursday, I got a call from a "Jason Richardson of Master Card" with a word-for-word repeat of the VISA scam. This time I didn't let him finish. I hung up! We filed a police report, as instructed by VISA. The police said they are taking several of these reports daily! They also urged us to tell everybody we know that this scam is happening.
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And yet, for some reason, I'm not surprised. :(
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Post by Vatrina »

That's actually not too new. I got an email about that about a year ago...though with the intelligence of the general population, I wouldn't doubt that it's still happening.
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With the intellegence of the current population, I wouldnt be surprised if it didnt last another few years. {Hume} are rather stupid like that at times.
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Post by Sugami »

Yikes.

My parents got a call from "the bank" about a questionable internet purchase, hope they weren't scammed but they were kinda curious as the legiticy of the call so they probably called to find out about it.
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One scam that recently popped up in my inbox is an e-mail from a hotmail.com address of this lady who talks about compassion and even acknowledges in the e-mail that this is legitimate and that I may doubt her because people have scammed others before.

Basically it was the "Nigerian bank scam" but this lady was Swedish or something and she was dying and if you sent her some money you'd get ten times back from this $150,000,000 USD trust fund her parents set up or something like that. I just scanned through it since it was sent to me ten times then I deleted it. If I still have it in my trash folder I'll copy and paste it.

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i've had that one a few times. sometimes it's a guy claiming to be the son of some king, or such and that the government are trying to overthrow him, so he want's you to invest his money and look after it and you would recieve xxx amount.

Have also had one from Visa, which isnt a scam as such but a pretty dodgy looking virus. says something about recent charges or something and then asks you to look at the attachment to see the details. i remember it freaking me out, cause i was on holiday at the time, and i had just used my Visa debit card to make a withdrawl. also the time it claimed of the purchase made, i was halfway to florida. checked it out proper when i got home, and it was showing up as a virus.
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Post by Alya Mizar (Tsybil) »

Most of these scams are not older than the internet, they are older than me!! :lol:

The Nigerian bank/queen scam is a variation on the "Pigeon Drop".

A "Spanish Prisoner" variation with a Hitler's secrete son theme is currently popular in Europe, both in person and over the web. (BTW, the excellent movie "The Spanish Prisoner" did not revolve around the scam of the same name but a Pigeon Drop.)

In my youth there was a series of books about scams, both legal and illegal, I found them fascinating. I highly recommend finding something on classical con games and reading it.

Edit: All of the "I want your numbers" scams are Bank Examiner variations.
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I have a discover card, I was lucky at like 18 with just starting out on credit to get it, and I've made sure i've never let anyone (that includes my b/f) use it. I had that same call once about my discover card. The _MINUTE_ they asked for the 3 digit pin, I hung up and contacted Discover about it, Their customer support told me "Never, Ever, EVER give out that pin number to someone who claims to be Discover, that's something we will never ask for!"

I almost gave it out too! to think I was 3 little numbers away from ruining my credit with Discover :3
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