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What new job will you try first?

Puppet Master
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24%
Corsair
10
24%
Bluemage
11
27%
none. Im sticking with the original jobs
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Tsybil wrote:Stats? For me the big question is the subjobs.

The sheeple who play this game will see RANGED and all go /NIN for a second Racc knife..... Personally I think that COR/BRD might be the way to go. At least untill 20 or 30. Early CORs will mimic RNGs in the gear as much as possible.
Well if you know what stats are wanted to boost will help you pick out a more suitable subjob.

And no I don't think the gun will require ranged accuracy considering it's ammoless and would deal out enfeebles, so I'm guessing the chance of landing an enfeeble would be based on skill and a stat, much like it is for RDM.
The job itself is meant to be a DD-support role. Support coming from the gun and the card abilities, DD from the primary weapon(s). Considering Corsairs will be using daggers as their weapon of choice it kind of begs the question as to how they'll deliver the damage.

As for Blue Mage being forced into backup healing I don't think so, they'll probably take a more active DD role like BLM if they're able to do some nice damage. Considering their abilities will be all offensive I'm guessing they'll want INT over MND.
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not all of BLU will be offensive, mobs have alot of defenceive and healing moves too
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Sugami wrote:As for Blue Mage being forced into backup healing I don't think so, they'll probably take a more active DD role like BLM if they're able to do some nice damage. Considering their abilities will be all offensive I'm guessing they'll want INT over MND.
The BLU will not be forced into back up healing. The BLU will be forced into being equipped to back up heal. There is a difference.

Let us look at BLM/NIN. More INT than /WHM, /RDM, or even /SMN. No MP cost shadows. Dual Wield Stat boosting wands before L 51. In the 40s perhaps 10 more INT than any other build. Totaly unused in parties because every mage MUST be prepared to back up heal.

I will just mention BLM/SMN with no details while I am on the subject.

Healing Breze heals everything in the AoE, not an acceptable substitute for Cures.
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Kailea wrote:not all of BLU will be offensive, mobs have alot of defenceive and healing moves too
Yes but don't you need to have the ability used on you and defeat the mob for exp to gain the ability? Ergo the only abilities learnt will be offensive ones... Still, means you'll only learn AoE abilities, I'm not sure how they're doing this all I know is you must get exp to gain the ability :shock:

I'm still unconvinced, BLU will be taking a DD spot anyways, there will still be a healer and a refresher, most likely a BLM or DD SMN too. Don't think BLU will need to go the same route. We shall see ^^
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Uh, no... I think they way they put it is that you have to fight a monster with the ability you want to learn and it has to be EP or above.
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It will be fine for me since it looks like i wont be able to play till 2007 x.x
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most posable one I'll try is puppetmaster looks the closest to MNK to me I'm not the one who likes to sit in the back so bluemage is not even an option
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Well I know for sure it has to be EP or higher and you have to gain experience points (so no getting a high level to kill stuff for you) and it will have to use the ability for you to get it, otherwise that's just silly.

Blue Mage won't be in the back row either. Will be the only mage meleeing 51+ with a sword (cutlass/falcion style) and using those learnt abilities to inflict decent damage and slow down the mob.
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I want to be a master in all things Mage.

*votes Bluemage*
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Delila wrote:most posable one I'll try is puppetmaster looks the closest to MNK to me I'm not the one who likes to sit in the back so bluemage is not even an option
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acualy BLU wont be in the back like a normal mage, if it is like any other BLU you will have a good skill in sword, so you will be meleeing too
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Votoing is pretty close currently :)

Looks like Blue Mage is the winning (just) :)
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Well It looks like Blue mage is the winner of this poll. Oddly enough ppl keep telling me its gonna be stronger than the other mage classes put together...
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:lol: laff, how do you define strength anyways? It's gonna be a lot different than the other mage classes so can't really compare :roll:
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exactly, blue mage will be greatly different than most of the mage jobs.
Heck, even by just having certain "spells" available you can get stat enhnacements, so it's expected that it won't play like your grandma's mage.


((Edit))
i found a list on a japanese website that has an expected list of spells a bluemage can learn... but we will only know for sure when we try to learn them at least

http://www5.plala.or.jp/SQR/ff11/magic/blue/index.html

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Pollen and Healing Breeze would be useful, if that is right there is a fair amount of defensive abilities too :)
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Kahvi wrote: i found a list on a japanese website that has an expected list of spells a bluemage can learn... but we will only know for sure when we try to learn them at least

http://www5.plala.or.jp/SQR/ff11/magic/blue/index.html
All the new BLU spells are in the translator now.

This is already leading to new translator jokes.
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Tsybil wrote: All the new BLU spells are in the translator now.

This is already leading to new translator jokes.
Yes they are, my Linkshell and I had a lot of fun already playing with the new spells in the transelator.

It seems BLU can even learn spells sea monsters use.
Now that is very interesting.

I also saw that Blue mages can {Self-Destruct} O.o
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Yup Self-Destruct and Bomb Toss, wonder if it'll hurt their party aswell and lose them exp?
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