Untill it saves my ass in a pt or makes me a shining example of what a true damage dealing class should look like, I'm not gonna be too crazy over our new two hour. It gives alot of little -eh- bonuses except for the sadly short Str boost. Other classes have more solid and specific 2hr's.
Frankly, it's the skill of the player behind the two-hour that defines our power.
im so happy drg upgrade
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In the end, I'm just talking out of my ass. So take it all with a grain of salt.
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angelstar107
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Spirit Surge
ok. I haven't read through all 6 pages of this forum topic, but I think it's safe to say no one really understands what Spirit Surge does.
Spirit Surge is a 2hr ability only usable when the Wyvern is out. From it, the Drg gains a Str Bonus based on an average of the wyvern's and the Drg's. For me, at lvl 62, I get Str +12.
Further, roughly 20% of the wyvern's HP is returned to the drg as a heal. Yes, you heard me, healing. Even more further, the drg recieves a minor haste (2-3%), and a minor acc enhancement (2-3%), along with the jump effects.
Just for kicks, I just wanted to point out that you do gain TP, which just happens to be the Wyvern's TP at that time. What this means is, with effective timing (and I have pulled this off), a Drg can preform a SINGLE solo skillchain, but it is very tricky.
To day, this is the most complex 2hr ability in FFXI.
To sum it up...
Str Bonus
Minor Acc Bonus
Minor Healing
Minor Haste
Jump effects
Wyvern TP to Drg
Talk about a mouth full x.x;;
Spirit Surge is a 2hr ability only usable when the Wyvern is out. From it, the Drg gains a Str Bonus based on an average of the wyvern's and the Drg's. For me, at lvl 62, I get Str +12.
Further, roughly 20% of the wyvern's HP is returned to the drg as a heal. Yes, you heard me, healing. Even more further, the drg recieves a minor haste (2-3%), and a minor acc enhancement (2-3%), along with the jump effects.
Just for kicks, I just wanted to point out that you do gain TP, which just happens to be the Wyvern's TP at that time. What this means is, with effective timing (and I have pulled this off), a Drg can preform a SINGLE solo skillchain, but it is very tricky.
To day, this is the most complex 2hr ability in FFXI.
To sum it up...
Str Bonus
Minor Acc Bonus
Minor Healing
Minor Haste
Jump effects
Wyvern TP to Drg
Talk about a mouth full x.x;;
Mnk 75, Drg 75, Sam 75, Blu 74, War 50, Thf 41, Dnc 58, Nin 37, Whm 42, Rdm 46, Pup 41, Rng 63, Bst 19, Pld 4, Drk 26, Smn 3, Sch 7
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Eviticus
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I wasn't asking for an omgwtfbbq 2hr. I just kinda wished it was simpler and more purpose oriented. I mean, it has about 30 more uses then any other 2hr, but each of those uses are weaker then other 2hrs.
And yes, Angelstar, earlier in the thread it was described what the 2hr does. ^.^;
And yes, Angelstar, earlier in the thread it was described what the 2hr does. ^.^;
In the end, I'm just talking out of my ass. So take it all with a grain of salt.
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[b]Rank 10 Bastok. Rank 2 Sandy.[/b] Pup 75, Drg 72, Brd 71, Thf 37, War 39, Sam 38, Blm 40, Rdm 22, Whm 40, Mnk 37, Nin 14, Pld 38, Bst 15, Drk 30, Smn 15, Blu 19, Rng 13, Dnc 24, Cor 11.
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[b]Rank 10 Bastok. Rank 2 Sandy.[/b] Pup 75, Drg 72, Brd 71, Thf 37, War 39, Sam 38, Blm 40, Rdm 22, Whm 40, Mnk 37, Nin 14, Pld 38, Bst 15, Drk 30, Smn 15, Blu 19, Rng 13, Dnc 24, Cor 11.
Paragon of Dragoon Excellence.
Paragon of Bard Excellence.
Paragon of Puppetmaster Excellence.
[quote="Keavy"]Evi still winnarz.[/quote]
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Eh well that's compare it to other DDs.
MNK Hundred Fists is pretty awesome so we'll ignore that.
THF get Perfect Dodge which is pretty lame and like never used unless a pull goes wrong or something.
WAR gets Might Strikes which is pretty good.
SAM get ... that TP thing I can't spell, that's awesome
DRK get Blood Weapon which sucks.
RNG get Eagle Eye Shot which is pretty meh and can miss.
So Spirit Surge may not be as powerful as Hundred Fists or whatever, it's a damn deal better than Perfect Dodge and Blood Weapon though
Next to the SAM one it's the most fun 2hr in the game
MNK Hundred Fists is pretty awesome so we'll ignore that.
THF get Perfect Dodge which is pretty lame and like never used unless a pull goes wrong or something.
WAR gets Might Strikes which is pretty good.
SAM get ... that TP thing I can't spell, that's awesome
DRK get Blood Weapon which sucks.
RNG get Eagle Eye Shot which is pretty meh and can miss.
So Spirit Surge may not be as powerful as Hundred Fists or whatever, it's a damn deal better than Perfect Dodge and Blood Weapon though
Next to the SAM one it's the most fun 2hr in the game
Str bonus +15, Attack bonus of like 50. My HP went from 1279 to 1511. Holy crap, I'm in love with Spirit Surge. <3
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Eviticus
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The Str boost and hp boost are awesome, don't get me wrong. But 30 sec or so only with a medium/high delay weapon, not that many attacks. And what Atk bonus? The only one I saw was the retroactive Atk bonus due to the Str bonus. Your Atk should only go up by 50 if your Str went up by 100.
So besides the Super Jumping a mage's hate away and a world-ending WS, I'm just saying it's not as good as some think. Our biggest strength is the perma-wyvern. And don't get me wrong, I like our 2hr. It's alot better then what we had before, nothing.
So besides the Super Jumping a mage's hate away and a world-ending WS, I'm just saying it's not as good as some think. Our biggest strength is the perma-wyvern. And don't get me wrong, I like our 2hr. It's alot better then what we had before, nothing.
In the end, I'm just talking out of my ass. So take it all with a grain of salt.
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[b]Rank 10 Bastok. Rank 2 Sandy.[/b] Pup 75, Drg 72, Brd 71, Thf 37, War 39, Sam 38, Blm 40, Rdm 22, Whm 40, Mnk 37, Nin 14, Pld 38, Bst 15, Drk 30, Smn 15, Blu 19, Rng 13, Dnc 24, Cor 11.
Paragon of Dragoon Excellence.
Paragon of Bard Excellence.
Paragon of Puppetmaster Excellence.
[quote="Keavy"]Evi still winnarz.[/quote]
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[b]Rank 10 Bastok. Rank 2 Sandy.[/b] Pup 75, Drg 72, Brd 71, Thf 37, War 39, Sam 38, Blm 40, Rdm 22, Whm 40, Mnk 37, Nin 14, Pld 38, Bst 15, Drk 30, Smn 15, Blu 19, Rng 13, Dnc 24, Cor 11.
Paragon of Dragoon Excellence.
Paragon of Bard Excellence.
Paragon of Puppetmaster Excellence.
[quote="Keavy"]Evi still winnarz.[/quote]
[img]http://e.1asphost.com/AJSB1986/wyv-burn.jpg[/img]
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Prrsha
SMN 2-hr for teh win!Sugami wrote:Eh well that's compare it to other DDs.
MNK Hundred Fists is pretty awesome so we'll ignore that.
THF get Perfect Dodge which is pretty lame and like never used unless a pull goes wrong or something.
WAR gets Might Strikes which is pretty good.
SAM get ... that TP thing I can't spell, that's awesome
DRK get Blood Weapon which sucks.
RNG get Eagle Eye Shot which is pretty meh and can miss.
So Spirit Surge may not be as powerful as Hundred Fists or whatever, it's a damn deal better than Perfect Dodge and Blood Weapon though
Next to the SAM one it's the most fun 2hr in the game
wha...what about he uber deadly WHM 2hr? lol. j/k I know you were just talking about dd's. But our 2hr is deadly....for the WHM using it 
WHM60/BLM30/WAR30/RNG26/DRK22/RDM20
MNK20/NIN15/THF10/BRD4/SMN1/SAM1/BST1
Cooking 30, Clothcraft 9, Fishing 4
Here I am in all my Mithran glory....
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MNK20/NIN15/THF10/BRD4/SMN1/SAM1/BST1
Cooking 30, Clothcraft 9, Fishing 4
Here I am in all my Mithran glory....
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Quoted For TruthKateevia wrote:wha...what about he uber deadly WHM 2hr? lol. j/k I know you were just talking about dd's. But our 2hr is deadly....for the WHM using it
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Losfuin: WHM 25, RDM 21, BLM 20, THF 20, WAR 30, MNK 16, BST 5, DRK 1, BRD 10, PLD 1
Dooom: Thf 25 WAR 14 MNK 7
Losfuin: WHM 25, RDM 21, BLM 20, THF 20, WAR 30, MNK 16, BST 5, DRK 1, BRD 10, PLD 1
Dooom: Thf 25 WAR 14 MNK 7
yes WHM 2hr is deadly for the WHM