What is the best way to make gil

A place to talk about... anything!
Prrsha

Post by Prrsha »

Tsybil wrote:Of course if you level FAST, money will always suck.
Yup, #1 cause to being broke, leveling too fast. If you take your time and enjoy the other faucets of FFXI, money is never an issue. While doing tons of quests, raising your rank and fame, you will make more then enough money to suit your needs.

Also another dumb way to end up broke is to buy quest items from the AH. These items will almost always be more expensive then the quest rewards. Get off your tail and don't be lazy. Find the items yourself. :wink:

Also never ever buy spells from the AH. 75% of the spells in the game can be bought from a NPC for cheaper then the going AH rate. Also many armor/weapons NPC merchants have cheaper goods as well. In addition do expeditionary forces every week. The CP will save you in the long run so you don't have to buy overpriced CP items from the AH.

The real reason why people are broke is because they are lazy. Instead of doing the footwork needed to obtain their needed items for cheaper (or even free) they allow themselves to get ripped off at the AH. They then whine and complain about how SE and FFXI sucks because they have no money in the game and defend their "rights" to buy gil. The problem is not with the game but the people in it (who set the prices). It's your own fault if you buy the overpriced items and you contribute to them being overpriced in the first place.
User avatar
Batsu
Feral Cat
Posts: 368
Joined: Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:43 pm
Location: North Granby, CT - North America

Post by Batsu »

MIKE JONES!!

Ugh, so bored . . .

I think I'll dig up Lineage II and go play that for a little bit . . .
[Active]
Chi - Level 60 Undead Rogue - Member of Unison - [Rank 9] Centurion ~ 12,695 Honorable Kills - 3 Dishonorable Kills

[Retired]
Batsu - Level 60 Elvaan Paladin - Level 56 Samurai
User avatar
Rohenda
Kitten
Posts: 10
Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:52 am
Location: England

Post by Rohenda »

If u got seals BCNM are always popular, rdm are useful in BCNM 30 because so many of the mobs are immune to sleep. I used to do the BC30 in the hut in Ghelsba Op its caled Petrifying pair, strategy is fairly simple too
3 people (30cap) against 2 Lizard NM
1 tank (I was always war/nin but nin/war obviously fine too pld maybe ok but ud need drinks prob), 1 DD e had a rng/nin but i cant see y any Dmg class couldnt fill this role and most importantly the rdm.

fairly easy, rdm/blm uses ele seal->bind on one lizard both will aggro and attack (well one will be bound) have war/nin tank the other and rng hurt it
rdm has to keep busy, immediatly Gravity the lizard you bound, thats basically the key, Rdm kites one lizard with Gravity/Bind (just cast them on and run away) while healing others if needed (Gravity usually sticks bind is resisted a little more). Once Lizards dead u can handle the other however u like Kite and hit it, let war/nin tank more if rdm needs mp etc

All in all its a decent BC because u dont really need to buy extra stuff for it, has a few good drops too, ostly lvl30 latent effect bits.
Main drop worth alot used to be Sarashi, but after the last patch this is now also the BC that drops Leaping Boots.
Jae
Tomcat
Posts: 147
Joined: Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:09 pm

Post by Jae »

Rohenda's BC
i believe it drops Leaping Boots now..
so good luck
currently BC items.. even though leaping boots have rare/ex....
its 1M+ @ AH
Also theres a trick to this BCNM(from what i heard.. if u use blinding potion to blind urself.. ull never get petrified... but ppl say its not worth it cause u wont be hitting anything... I actually did this to avoid when i was doing BC40 Under Observation.. I couldnt hit anything with all +1 gear and food)

luckily i invested my money on those to help out someone ^^;
bought okote,leaping,hairpin for someone and now price went up ^^
User avatar
Neoshinobi
Mad Cat
Posts: 670
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2005 2:37 am
Location: Ny

Post by Neoshinobi »

Jae wrote:wow.. so many links
someone have been researching =x

i never said to be gil seller
but learn the dedication they have
actually... google
Tivia
Irrepressible Kitteh
Posts: 1347
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:55 pm

Post by Tivia »

Prrsha wrote: The real reason why people are broke is because they are lazy. Instead of doing the footwork needed to obtain their needed items for cheaper (or even free) they allow themselves to get ripped off at the AH. They then whine and complain about how SE and FFXI sucks because they have no money in the game and defend their "rights" to buy gil. The problem is not with the game but the people in it (who set the prices). It's your own fault if you buy the overpriced items and you contribute to them being overpriced in the first place.
Bingo,

People like this make players like me very happy. I have made the bulk of my money in every mmo I play in this fashion. One of the things I currently do in WoW when I bother to log in, I have several vendors who sell me recipie's at 18silver each, it is a limited item but not too limited I usually round up 2 of each a day, one when I am heading out to hunt, one coming back. I turn around and sell each of these for 8 ~ 15 gold each on the AH and people buy them every day without fail. They are not even particularly hard vendor's to get too. In the end I make hundreds of gold per day for about a total of 10 minutes of my time.

I did the exact same thing in FFXI with spells and some items. Heck What really blew me away was 3 of the spells I was selling for 3 to 4k gil profit each on in jeuno I purchased from the spell shop not 20 feet from the AH, It honestly really redefined lazy people.
User avatar
Crispleaf
Housecat
Posts: 348
Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2005 6:40 pm

Re: What is the best way to make gil

Post by Crispleaf »

LostDream wrote:can anyone give me information on the best way to make gil? Im very pour and need alot of gil to support the growning needs of a lv28 rdm
If you don't plan on leveling ninja, you can do 3 profitable ninja scroll quests:
Tonko: Ichi, Hojo: Ichi, and Utsusemi: Ichi (probably the most prized). Since you can use Sneak (for Tonko and Utsu) and Invisible (for Hojo) as a red mage, you should be able to do these easily.

First, you'll need to be able to get to Kahzam (which you can probably do, but if you can't, you'll need to do the Kazham airship quest).

Next, you'll need to get Tenshodo fame. The most popular ways to do this is either turning in Yagudo Necklaces in Windurst or Zinc Ore in Bastok. Yagudo Necklaces are easy to obtain in Saruta and Giddeus. Zinc can be mined safely in Zerhun Mines. Either way, you'll need to trade 108 of them to get enough fame.

Once you get enough fame, get over to Norg in the Sea Serpent Grotto and pick up the three quests. Two of them involve sneaking around Sea Serpent Grotto and the other involves finding a ??? spot in Yhoater Jungle. Prices may vary on different servers, but doing all 3 on Alexander will get you almost a million gil.
[img]http://home.comcast.net/~crispl3af/level.JPG[/img]
Bastok Rank 8-1, Windurst Rank 10
Rise of Zilart Completed
Chains of Promathia Completed
Treasures of Aht Urghan Rank 2
User avatar
Alya Mizar (Tsybil)
Queen Cat
Posts: 3640
Joined: Tue May 25, 2004 9:18 pm
Location: USA, upper left coast

Post by Alya Mizar (Tsybil) »

I don't think I will ever do NIN scroll quests for the Gil even though I don't know if I will ever even unlock the job. Someday I might want to and then I will want those scrolls.

But people have done those with mules. Most start in Bastok and trade Zinc in, then take the mules out for Kazam keys, then to Norg. Having a second account helps but getting a partner will work as well. Takes about a day more if zinc is in short supply.

Other tricks for temporary mules: Windurst, first two Star Onion quests. About 5 mins, you get a Justice badge and a scroll of Blaze spikes. Bastok, Warp Scroll quest, takes Fame 2. Do the Elvaan Goldsmith untill she asks for silver, at that point you have Fame 2 and can talk to Unlucky Rat in the Metalworks. Cheaper but longer would be What's for Lunch and the Flint stone one. San d'Oria's best Gil maker would be the Friar's Rope one, again Fame 2, but if you know Sandy quests, you can make Gil getting to that level. However in San d'Oria is the Drain Scroll quest. You must be Rank 2 and on 2 - 3 before you can start it. I have 3 other characters who will never study Black Magic, soooo.... I also have 3 mules at Rank 2. What I lack is free time.
Red Mage 99, White Mage 50, Black Mage 75, SCH 99, Summoner 14, THF 25, BLU 25, NIN 50, WAR 18, DRK 50, DNC 49, PLD 50. Goldsmith 72 +2, Cooking 60 +2, Alchemy 41, Fishing 33, Rank 8, Windurst, Lakshmi (Garuda, I weep for you)

Red Mage 26 White Mage 11 Black Mage 12 Thief 16, Cooking 1, Rank 3, Windurst, Quez.
User avatar
Tifachan
Kitten
Posts: 35
Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:53 pm
Location: Windurst

Post by Tifachan »

On Bismarck, I'm always running around Tahrongi Canyon farming Beehive Chips and stealing Saruta Cotton. And there is the occassional Air Elementals that I take Wind Clusters from. Much faster if you use a ranged weapon.

Only problem on Bismarck is the prices have been going up or down. Supply and Demand stuff...

I'm gonna try harvesting in Giddeus or go to Kon. Highlands.
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v117/Xenoheart/drkkaori.jpg[/img]
User avatar
Baketsu
Feral Cat
Posts: 416
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:54 pm
Location: San d'Oria

Post by Baketsu »

Tivia wrote:Well I found the most profitable was reselling. Buying stuff off of people or merchants or even in the AH in one city and relisting the item elsewhere for more. I started out with a scant 100 gil and just worked my way up from there, a few months later I was selling items that netted 50k+ in profit alone.

Outside that gardening is quite profitable..but it is fairly tedious

Fishing, profitable if you know where to go and the bait to use. Even at the height of the botter boom where fishing was crap everywhere I knew of a few places where I could regularly pull 10 to 12 stacks of moat carp in 4 hours or so, which was a tidy profit at 4k a stack.

*For the record a Certain fishing pole that is regarded as the second best to the Lu Shang's is at best overrated. I personally tested it extensively against a composite and I found the catch to loss ratio was exactlly the same.*
I usually take what extra money I have left and buy items from vendors (not guilds because that isn't very nice). Then place a coulle on the AH and then place a mule near the AH with the price lower on the mule than on the AH. It never fails.


So instead of just sitting on a 400K nestegg, I can make into a 600K nestegg by having my mule sell items while I am not actively playing the game. I just set it up before going to bed, check it before going to work, and when i get home from work.

I buy items you can only get in one city (sandy) and sell them in one city that doesn't have that item (bastock) and I make only 2K per item sold, it costs about 8k for the item I buy. So I end up with a nice profit margin and people in bastock are happy cause they are getting some items at below AH prices!!! win-win
Jobs: RDM-54/BLM-32/WHM-26/PLD-23/THF14-WAR17-MNK8-DRG17-DRK18-BST3-RNG3-SMN7-BRD1
Race: Elvaan
Hometown: San d'Oria
Skills: Cooking 23- Smithing 3
EXP is hard to come by, treasure it!
Kotomo
Tomcat
Posts: 59
Joined: Sun May 15, 2005 9:17 pm
Location: Landenberg PA
Contact:

Post by Kotomo »

Lets see....well for a while I found making a stack bronze ingots to be profitable. I discovered while lvling some low lvl jobs so Firecrystals were almost always free. So if I ever collected a stack of fire crystals I would go and make Bronze ingots. Cost about 1K for the ingredients and they sold in San'd Oria for about 9-10K. I didn't need very high lvl smithing either to do it almost without fail, only lvl 2.

Though now I've moved onto to fishing for moat carp with a clothespole. I can probably catch about 2 stacks of carp with 4 stacks of insect balls and if they are selling for 5K that's 8K profit. I may also catch extra moat carp that I hang onto for the next time I go fishing so next time I could wind up with 3 stacks of moat carp.
[img]http://kotomo.is-a-geek.org/pics/kotomo_signature2.jpg[/img]
[url=http://profile.xfire.com/jackrabbit62][img]http://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/os/type/2/jackrabbit62.png[/img][/url]
User avatar
Rohenda
Kitten
Posts: 10
Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:52 am
Location: England

Post by Rohenda »

Jae wrote:Rohenda's BC
i believe it drops Leaping Boots now..
so good luck
currently BC items.. even though leaping boots have rare/ex....
its 1M+ @ AH
Also theres a trick to this BCNM(from what i heard.. if u use blinding potion to blind urself.. ull never get petrified... but ppl say its not worth it cause u wont be hitting anything... I actually did this to avoid when i was doing BC40 Under Observation.. I couldnt hit anything with all +1 gear and food)

luckily i invested my money on those to help out someone ^^;
bought okote,leaping,hairpin for someone and now price went up ^^
Yea the petrify is an annoyance once got strategy pinned down we never lost even if they petrified, it wears off fast. Also Leaping boots should still sell a bit even with the rare/ex variet cos people want WInged boots.
User avatar
Karou Ariyen
Rampageing Lunatic
Posts: 2848
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2004 7:38 pm
Location: San d'Oria
Contact:

Post by Karou Ariyen »

i sell scrolls i dont need/or are going to use.
Image
Warrior 81/Ninja 37 | Samurai 85/Warrior 40 | Puppetmaster 76/Warrior 37 | Dancer 41/Ninja 16
Solo WS=Raging Rush 2282 vs Boreal Hound | Salaheem's Sentinal's <> SECOND LIEUTENANT
Swift Illusion - Black Female Chocobo |Sahyu - Level 60 Soothing Healer |
User avatar
Eviticus
'Insignificant Adventurer'
Posts: 1178
Joined: Thu Oct 07, 2004 5:43 pm
Location: South Western Illinois, USA

Post by Eviticus »

My soul is tainted by the evils of how I made money, but I shall tell you since now it is no longer profitable. For the longest time I've had a mule in Bastok just running things to AH for me, and the extra storage. Untill one day I found out a stack of Bronze Sheets for 120-60 per sheet, can go for 3k on AH. That's like 1.7k profit off of a very high demand item. I could make 10k a day for free or so with no work at all.

I know 10k a day wasn't much, but I did it for months. And I'm lazy, so the no work needed part caught my attention. Sadly though, Squeenix changed the price calculations at the Guilds, so trying that trick now is alot harder. ^.^; Back to farming bee bits and Yagudo jewelry.
In the end, I'm just talking out of my ass. So take it all with a grain of salt.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[b]Rank 10 Bastok. Rank 2 Sandy.[/b] Pup 75, Drg 72, Brd 71, Thf 37, War 39, Sam 38, Blm 40, Rdm 22, Whm 40, Mnk 37, Nin 14, Pld 38, Bst 15, Drk 30, Smn 15, Blu 19, Rng 13, Dnc 24, Cor 11.
Paragon of Dragoon Excellence.
Paragon of Bard Excellence.
Paragon of Puppetmaster Excellence.
[quote="Keavy"]Evi still winnarz.[/quote]

[img]http://e.1asphost.com/AJSB1986/wyv-burn.jpg[/img]
Post Reply