SMN In Progress

Post by **Mystiana** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:46 pm

LIES ALL LIES >.<

I love /SMN. Very few people tell me it's a bad choice. It's not about the avatars, it's about the MP/Auto-refresh. Not to mention the BLM/SMN combo could be the highest INT combo in the game. If your WHM and RDM or BRD can't heal your party, you need a new party.

I was talking with a level 74 Mithra BLM/WHM, and she had "60-something" INT base; I have 72. BLM/SMN owns. I slip to /RDM only (-120 MP, -1 INT) for HNM events, but for exp, /SMN {Yes, please.}

Shirai wrote:You get more MP and the magnificent auto Refresh at 50. but at lvl 50 you should know how to conserve MP to keep chains alive.
You show the one inviting, hey I'm no gimpy backup healer... I want to nuke! (Will get you less invites)

Odd.. I will seek up with /WHM and /RDM already seeking all the time, and I'm picked up before they are most of the time.

Post by **Shirai** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:50 pm

Firemyst wrote:
Shirai wrote:You get more MP and the magnificent auto Refresh at 50. but at lvl 50 you should know how to conserve MP to keep chains alive.
You show the one inviting, hey I'm no gimpy backup healer... I want to nuke! (Will get you less invites)
Odd.. I will seek up with /WHM and /RDM already seeking all the time, and I'm picked up before they are most of the time.

Might be server based then, on the other hand I never had the privilege to party with a blm/smn since there are very few of them around on Titan.

Might try for myself when I decide to lvl blm again.

LIES ALL LIES >.<

I love /SMN. Very few people tell me it's a bad choice. It's not about the avatars, it's about the MP/Auto-refresh. Not to mention the BLM/SMN combo could be the highest INT combo in the game. If your WHM and RDM or BRD can't heal your party, you need a new party.

About the INT I didn't know,
but don't make me a liar because you have different experiences.

I just like the safety of having backup curing posibilities because I tend to get irritated sometimes with the incompetense of many whm pre40 (No offence)

Janeth · Post by **Janeth** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:55 pm

Well, I haven't really tried avatar fights, although I really need them, cause I don't have the fame. ^^;; I really hate getting fame...But back on topic, I have two reasons to prefer the mini battles to the prime ones.
1) they need less fame.

2) If I were to level RDM (my main) up to 60 to do the prime fights, I would need to either keep subbing THF, which of course no one likes, or level BLM or WHM. I have "Top Secret" reasons for never using BLM or WHM as a sub for RDM. You probably don't want to hear my tired old rant on subjob, but for the few people who do, here are some links: Thread: "Gwynn's Blackmage Adventure" Thread: "Weird Subjobs". Anyway, due to all that stuff, I am subbing SMN, which I can't level any more without avatars, and I can't level RDM past 40 without leveling SMN past 20, so I am sort of forced into the mini avatars. ^^; Sorry if that wasn't much help, but I'm kinda new and I don't really have any information, so all I have to offer is my opinion.

Edited because in the original version, the grammar was atrocious and practically nothing was capitalized. Also, I wanted to add those links. ^^

Ziada · Post by **Ziada** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:00 am

BLM/SMN is seriously gimped. You can't backup heal at all. You can't cure statuses or sneak/invis yourself either. It's not worth it.

Post by **Shirai** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:59 pm

Ziada wrote:BLM/SMN is seriously gimped.

After revising Myst's Arguments on /smn on BLM I found a few good points to sub /smn post 50 on BLM.

Firemyst wrote:It's not about the avatars, it's about the MP/Auto-refresh. Not to mention the BLM/SMN combo could be the highest INT combo in the game.

For a nuke happy BLM this sub is heaven, INT is the most important stat for BLM for enfeebling magic to stick and do massive damage on the mobs.
Especially during MB's.
Auto-refresh is heavenly when it comes to blasting that extra nuke and regaining MP fast in between battles.

Firemyst wrote:If your WHM and RDM or BRD can't heal your party, you need a new party.

True, tho I refuse to have RDMs main heal parties.
But if the combo of a WHM with an RDM or BRD can't cope with healing magic. (considering your puller knows when to hold back when it comes to pulling on low MP) they should be replaced.

Ziada wrote:You can't backup heal at all. You can't cure statuses

*cough* If a whm can't cure statuses they should pick another job or learn to use them spells and learn to recognize what mob's action gives what status. *cough*

Ziada wrote:or sneak/invis yourself either. It's not worth it.

*cough* sneak oils.... Prism powders..... *cough*

cheap to make if you lvl alchemy, and very helpfull if melee learns to bring them instead of me risking my own tail to keep them safe.... orz....

(And yes even as whm I always carry these with me to trade to the people that don't bring them or safe my own tail in places where mobs agro to magic!)

Batsu · Post by **Batsu** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:32 am

I think when they said they don't have Gil to buy it . . . they meant that they couldn't afford paying people to help . . .

Post by **Shirai** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:05 pm

Batsu wrote:I think when they said they don't have Gil to buy it . . . they meant that they couldn't afford paying people to help . . .

Paying for help??

Honestly.... people that charge you to help are seriously wrong....
Asking gil to help someone is a direct insult to the people that helped you for free in the past.

I always refused to accept gil for help, and I always will.

Batsu · Post by **Batsu** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:51 pm

Same. Seriously, its called help for a reason . . . -.-

Post by **Karou Ariyen** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:29 pm

same here i had 3 people in jueno harrass me becuase i offered to help this taru out with rank 4 i said /sh screw them, ill take you and do it for free! then i saw "YOu noob! YOU STOLE MY BUSINESS blah blah blah Its rude to take gil from people like that~

guess what mr noob, if its wrong for me to take gil from you by helping someone for free.... its wrong to charge some one for helping them >>

Yugi · Post by **Yugi** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:48 am

yeah like charging 36.000 gil for 2 lumps opf beesewax for the friars ropew quest..;.; i know they cost that much in the ah but why cant they let me hhave it for free? i mean they can make those charging me for it is pointless..;.; i wonder..do monsters have auction houses?^^;

Post by **Alya Mizar (Tsybil)** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:01 am

36 WHAT forrr 2 lumps of beeswax? It's Alchemy 4 or 6 or somthing else makeable with 0 skill and no guild buff.

Janeth · Post by **Janeth** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:48 pm

What I did is get my brother, who has a very low-level alchemy skill, but an alchemy skill nonetheless, to make me beeswax. It really doesn't take much skill...you can make them yourself easily ^^ you will need beehive chips to make it, what i did is farmed them. i hope this is helpful ^^

Yugi · Post by **Yugi** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 10:19 pm