MithraPride

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:13 am**

So I was waiting in the dunes with my lvl 10 PLD (Finnaly got off my toosh and decided to lvl it up some) When after waiting a full 2 hours, I finnaly got a party invite. And then it happened. I was booted without being d/c. All my computer said was FFXI has lost full screen mode. I was like WTF! Why does this happen, so much. I mean why is it full screen anyway. If it were where I could minimize the window, id be able to play and look at strategy guides to help with missions and quests. Rather than having to log out every single time. Its a great game, but thats just one of the flaws that pulls my tail

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:26 am**

FFXI have to be full screen, if it's not = you got d/c

Before getting in FFXI, be sure to close all download windows, all kind of messengers, any webpage that might have a pop up since they often pop up and automatically minimize FFXI's full screen AND of course....hello again d/c

I've heard there is a windower program which allows FFXI to run in window mode, but don't say "windower" in FFXI, the GM may send you a /tell soon.

I'll look for the link for this windower program, if i find it i'll post it soon.

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:00 am**

Google FFXI Windower if you want it.

Keep in mind that using Windower is the same as using drugs: Its only illegal if you get caught.

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:38 am**

Ooooh. I want it, but I dont want to do anything illegal

Ill have to pass.

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:22 am**

Keavy wrote:Google FFXI Windower if you want it.

Keep in mind that using Windower is the same as using drugs: Its only illegal if you get caught.

I think it's mainly anti-virus programs that cause you to lose full screen. The reason they've forced it upon us is to cut down on hacking. If you were able to alt-tab out (which you are with windower) then you could run programs in the background. Couple of hacks I'm aware of are speed-hack and the instant teleport to spawning NMs.

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:43 pm**

Windower is the Shiznt. I use it because Norton is Anti Long Party.

And its quite handy to see a %health of the mob, the TP of your entire party, the distance to the mob, and everyone's hp & mp regardless if they are in the same zone.

All the hacks that people run in the background suck, and those people need to get BAnNed. But in my opinion the windower by itself is harmless fun.

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:25 pm**

the windower is a program which forces ffxi to run in windowed mode, pretty much it acts as a normal windows program with it. its extremtly useful, can be downloaded here.

http://ffxi.archbell.com

by the gm community and others, it is considered against the TOS, however, unlike "hacks" it doesnt do anything to the game, all it does is run ffxi in windowed mode, and has some nice plug ins to display useful information (personally i use tparty and expwatch).

your pretty much going to have to realize that SE is a bastard, they took thier PS2 version of ffxi and did a direct port of it to PC, thats why the interface is so fucked up to log in (its an operating system within an operating system). the windower makes it work like an actual windows program. and believe me, if your not willing to use it based on thier "rules" preventing it, even though they should already allow it in the first place, then get the hell off my forum and i never want to see you again.

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:46 pm**

I will just wait for WIndows Vista to come out, it and direct X 10 will alow me to run FFXI in a window, without and extra programs :p

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:11 pm**

Kessa wrote:And its quite handy to see a %health of the mob, the TP of your entire party, the distance to the mob, and everyone's hp & mp regardless if they are in the same zone.

All the hacks that people run in the background suck, and those people need to get BAnNed. But in my opinion the windower by itself is harmless fun.

Please explain why "to see a %health of the mob, the TP of your entire party, the distance to the mob, and everyone's hp & mp regardless if they are in the same zone.
" is not a hack.

Having an advantage that other players lack is exactly what bannable offenses are. Yes even one this useful and innocous.

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:27 pm**

Tsybil wrote:
Kessa wrote:And its quite handy to see a %health of the mob, the TP of your entire party, the distance to the mob, and everyone's hp & mp regardless if they are in the same zone.

All the hacks that people run in the background suck, and those people need to get BAnNed. But in my opinion the windower by itself is harmless fun.
Please explain why "to see a %health of the mob, the TP of your entire party, the distance to the mob, and everyone's hp & mp regardless if they are in the same zone.
" is not a hack.

Having an advantage that other players lack is exactly what bannable offenses are. Yes even one this useful and innocous.

use the windower and find out and youl understand.

% helth of the mob translates the arbitrary *bar* you have into an exact number, makes it easier to detect when its getting close to dying.

Tparty shows you the part's tp, its data the client has, but doesnt show you. if you dont like it, turn it off.

another thing tparty does, is show you the current MP that everyone has in your alliance, EXTREMLY useful for alliance strategy planning and dynamis and such.

distance displays the distance you are away from the mob, it helps rangers find that *sweet spot*

namechanger keeps the window's name from changing every 5 seconds, is used as a prereq for most other plugins.

expwatch is a plugin that tracks the current exp your at, shows your tnl, calculates the xp/hr and tracks the mobs and time tnl, extremly useful.

drawdistance, changes the draw distance in the game to let you see further and clearer, intresting plugin that uses the power of our computers to make a better game

currently the people on the windower project are looking to force the ffxi graphics system to run though the video card processor (right now the enitre game is run off your CPU just like the PS2 works), to further enhance and add fun things like AA, and AS (anti-allaising and Antroscopic filtering) along with higher resolutions, and better overall graphic quality.

hell there is even a clock plugin so you can see the time without having to hit /clock every time on your system

the windower is a useful and "yes possibly" abusible program, though anything you found by the windower makers is not a "bot" for the game, and they refuse to make those, they are only intrested in making plugins that enhance the game and make the end users happy.

im proud to say i use and support the windower, because it has turned ffxi into what i always wanted to do on my computer.

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:30 pm**

oh col I did not know about the who video card thing they where working on, that would make me use Windower again :p

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:44 pm**

When Mac OS X Leopard is released I may switch to the PC version and run it off of my Mac for Windower.

It depends on whether or not I can afford a new iMac when it is released.

Posted: **Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:15 pm**

Seeing the tp of others isn't really that big a deal IMO. The bots are the problem. MP of the alliance? Actually kind of a nice idea, something SE should've done in the first place? And OMG, actually being able to alt-tab out, and check information, using my computer like a PS2 user is capable of doing? By jove, I think that might just actually make it fair to us PC users. I don't want an FFXI machine. If I did, I'd have a PS2 still (well, and if it hadn't crapped itself). I rather like having my computer, but I like being able to play my game as well. Playing the game means in order to look up information at websites like a PS2 user would do, I have to temp-log. What's fair about that, eh? ;;

Posted: **Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:20 am**

Tsybil wrote:
Kessa wrote:And its quite handy to see a %health of the mob, the TP of your entire party, the distance to the mob, and everyone's hp & mp regardless if they are in the same zone.

All the hacks that people run in the background suck, and those people need to get BAnNed. But in my opinion the windower by itself is harmless fun.
Please explain why "to see a %health of the mob, the TP of your entire party, the distance to the mob, and everyone's hp & mp regardless if they are in the same zone.
" is not a hack.

I agree, it is a hack. THat's one thing that will get the windower in trouble is the extensive plugins that add more and more functionality than what's allowed by non-windower users.

Posted: **Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:13 am**

I just don't use AV software! I've never gotten a "FFXI lost full screen" crash that I didn't invoke myself.

Posted: **Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:58 am**

Nivez wrote:
Tsybil wrote:
Kessa wrote:And its quite handy to see a %health of the mob, the TP of your entire party, the distance to the mob, and everyone's hp & mp regardless if they are in the same zone.

All the hacks that people run in the background suck, and those people need to get BAnNed. But in my opinion the windower by itself is harmless fun.
Please explain why "to see a %health of the mob, the TP of your entire party, the distance to the mob, and everyone's hp & mp regardless if they are in the same zone.
" is not a hack.

Having an advantage that other players lack is exactly what bannable offenses are. Yes even one this useful and innocous.
use the windower and find out and youl understand.

% helth of the mob translates the arbitrary *bar* you have into an exact number, makes it easier to detect when its getting close to dying.

Tparty shows you the part's tp, its data the client has, but doesnt show you. if you dont like it, turn it off.

another thing tparty does, is show you the current MP that everyone has in your alliance, EXTREMLY useful for alliance strategy planning and dynamis and such.

distance displays the distance you are away from the mob, it helps rangers find that *sweet spot*
Advantage - You only

namechanger keeps the window's name from changing every 5 seconds, is used as a prereq for most other plugins.

expwatch is a plugin that tracks the current exp your at, shows your tnl, calculates the xp/hr and tracks the mobs and time tnl, extremly useful. Advantage - You only

drawdistance, changes the draw distance in the game to let you see further and clearer, intresting plugin that uses the power of our computers to make a better game

currently the people on the windower project are looking to force the ffxi graphics system to run though the video card processor (right now the enitre game is run off your CPU just like the PS2 works), to further enhance and add fun things like AA, and AS (anti-allaising and Antroscopic filtering) along with higher resolutions, and better overall graphic quality. Hmm, I disagree. If that were true I could run it on my laptop easily. And when I modify my settings the quality changes and if I swap in an older card it gets slower. It's D3D, like it or not.

hell there is even a clock plugin so you can see the time without having to hit /clock every time on your system

the windower is a useful and "yes possibly" abusible program, though anything you found by the windower makers is not a "bot" for the game, and they refuse to make those, they are only intrested in making plugins that enhance the game and make the end users happy.

im proud to say i use and support the windower, because it has turned ffxi into what i always wanted to do on my computer.

Posted: **Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:18 am**

Think there's one windower or version of the windower that allows you to use Japanese script from a US or EU version, that'd be the only reason I'd get one

Posted: **Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:20 am**

Kopopo wrote:
Nivez wrote:
Tsybil wrote: Please explain why "to see a %health of the mob, the TP of your entire party, the distance to the mob, and everyone's hp & mp regardless if they are in the same zone.
" is not a hack.

Having an advantage that other players lack is exactly what bannable offenses are. Yes even one this useful and innocous.
use the windower and find out and youl understand.

% helth of the mob translates the arbitrary *bar* you have into an exact number, makes it easier to detect when its getting close to dying.

Tparty shows you the part's tp, its data the client has, but doesnt show you. if you dont like it, turn it off.

another thing tparty does, is show you the current MP that everyone has in your alliance, EXTREMLY useful for alliance strategy planning and dynamis and such.

distance displays the distance you are away from the mob, it helps rangers find that *sweet spot*
Advantage - You only
Correct, i dont use this plugin, but it's helpful to rangers

namechanger keeps the window's name from changing every 5 seconds, is used as a prereq for most other plugins.

expwatch is a plugin that tracks the current exp your at, shows your tnl, calculates the xp/hr and tracks the mobs and time tnl, extremly useful. Advantage - You only
Incorrect, it shows no information that you couldnt figure out yourself with a pen and paper, it just does it automatically for you. it does affect you only, but doesnt change the functionality of the game, nor display actual things on the screen that you shouldnt be able to see.

drawdistance, changes the draw distance in the game to let you see further and clearer, intresting plugin that uses the power of our computers to make a better game

currently the people on the windower project are looking to force the ffxi graphics system to run though the video card processor (right now the enitre game is run off your CPU just like the PS2 works), to further enhance and add fun things like AA, and AS (anti-allaising and Antroscopic filtering) along with higher resolutions, and better overall graphic quality. Hmm, I disagree. If that were true I could run it on my laptop easily. And when I modify my settings the quality changes and if I swap in an older card it gets slower. It's D3D, like it or not.
wrong again, FFXI runs all graphics though the CPU, not the GPU. it may be D3D, but it puts a hell of a load on the CPU to display all the graphics for the game, they are working on forcing the graphics to the GPU and allowing all GPU functions to work with ffxi. the reason your game runs slower on an old card is simple, while the functions of GPU are done in the CPU, the video card still has to get, store and display that information, older video cards do now have the capacity to do as such, and therefor display worse than newer video cards.

hell there is even a clock plugin so you can see the time without having to hit /clock every time on your system

the windower is a useful and "yes possibly" abusible program, though anything you found by the windower makers is not a "bot" for the game, and they refuse to make those, they are only intrested in making plugins that enhance the game and make the end users happy.

im proud to say i use and support the windower, because it has turned ffxi into what i always wanted to do on my computer.

Posted: **Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:29 am**

If it's all software, then why can't my laptop run it? It has a respectable video chip, roughly on par with a GF4. But it lacks hardware TnL capability. If the game were TRULY rendered on the CPU then I could run it despite that.

Posted: **Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:19 am**

Unfortunately, FFXI has a really STUPID method of rendering that puts a bunch a lot of strain on the CPU.

Have you played, like... Half-Life 2 and seen the holograms? The game is basically rendered like one of those, like a texture with the menu and stuff rendered on it like a frame. And then there's the TnL thing, yeah...

Posted: **Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:17 am**

It would be nicer if FFXI would use my video card a little bit more and less of my CPU, LOL

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