I got a bro who wrote a Noob FAQ for FFXI..critisim time!

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I got a bro who wrote a Noob FAQ for FFXI..critisim time!

Post by maryadavies »

Okay. I believe some of ya have met my bro Shadowcat? (he's mostly goin' by Shadowneko now) Well, since the PS2 ver is coming, he decided to take his little beta hume theivey butt and write a Newbie FAQ for FFXI. Here it is:

http://www.westga.edu/~stu8594/ffxinewbie.html

(I just finished html'ing it for him. I'll fix it as a text file later..and it's on my school server 'cause I know that can take more hits than 250free--though it's risky-disky since the school might kill my old personal page at any time)

Okay ye kitties...Comments on this, other than "he needs to work on his spelling" (I'll fix that when I got more time, Kopopo's helpin' with that as well)? Things I need to get Shadowcat to add? Anything you wanna critique?

Anyway, anyone who helps will get credit. Even I will!
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Well, it reminds me that I need to work on my "White Mage Oath" sometime.
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Post by Phelisia »

yeah, an ideal guide of what a whm _is_ and _should be_ would be great, help all those concieted whm learn... hopefully...

btw tora, have him post it on gamefaqs... that way the newbs will 99% get it instead of having to read flame wars on the forums
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Post by Shekhina »

HEY! No picking on White Mages! =p Not all of them are concieted, I certainly am not =p *ahem* anyway, he might want to get help from different people that have played each race/jobs. get tips from them since they know what its like to play them first hand.
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Post by maryadavies »

I wouldn't mind if you posted this on Gamefaqs, I'm plannin' on fixing Shadowcat a text version of this FAQ for Gamefaqs. Shadowcat asked me to do that since I'm good at prettying things up. (including text files!)

Also, that's why I'm postin' it around. Shadowcat agrees with me; we need some input from people who are playing right now, not the "waiters" so we can get this up to date and ready before he starts submitting it all over. The only way is to post up what he's got and ask for ideas/critisim. And since I'm on the SS board and am kinda in MP (though I'm a PS2 waiter)...guess who gets that job? *twitches her ears*

If any of you cats that do specific jobs can check this out to make sure it's accurate according to the retail or have ideas of things to add, post it and I'll make sure Shadowcat sees it and gives that cat credit :D
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Please note these are just my opinions and if disagreed with, I don't really mind.


Is this for newbies to MMORPGs or to FFXI w/ MM game experiance? If it's for total newbies it needs to go into the details of the benifits of groups, good communication, how hate works, etc. If it's for those experianced with MM games, that probably won't be nessisary.

The paragraph between 'Making a character' and 'Races' should be under the 'Starting Jobs' section.

In the 'Starting Areas' section I'd recommend warning about how spread out Windurst is. It's 5 zones compared to the 3 the other citys entail (Waters is the size of two zones). Also, it is not mentioned that San d'Oria has a blacksmiths guild, which it does.

I very much disagree that crafts is a good way to make money. A good way to spend excess gil IMO. Information on how to use the AH effectively should be used instead.

In the manners section there should be mention that death involves exp loss and deleveling. Personal loss will be a bigger motivator to not die than the conquest. Also the check command is based on having best gear for level, subjob, all spells, full HP/MP/TP and not being double teamed by multiple mobs. As a newbie, you will not have this.

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Overall I found the guide incomplete. For example he warns not to fight certain monsters or to be careful when engaging them but not why or what precautions to use.
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Post by maryadavies »

Workin' on that.

I assume he means it for total newbies (what are the PS2 players gonna say when they start this? Bet it's gonna be a "Huh?") as well as the ones that come from other MMORPGs.

Someone on SS said that adding some basic MMO definations would be a good idea as well...and one race needs fixing as well: Elvaan. (This is a rough draft, did you guess?) Also, Shadow said he might add advanced job quests as well; prolly will add a def and the basics only of skillchains and magic burst (but not put a chart! Others have done a good job of that) Also may be adding standard weapon types as well.

I'll add what ya said to the notes that I'm sending Shadowcat so he can fix stuff...Can be hard to correct things in a hurry when you're not the real author, ya know?

I also told Shadow that he needs to explain "Signet" better, and say something about lotting. I heard that there's some idiots that think you shouldn't lot. That is disgusting... :roll:
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Post by maryadavies »

I know, naughty kitty double posted..

But I thought ya might wanna know. Shadowcat just got through editing and changing it. basically makin' a new version. (I had to html a paste from a word file, that's what. That takes forever...and no I won't save it as a HTML file directly. Word makes a VERY messy HTML file and I don't wanna clean that trash up!)

So look up and take a look. Bear in mind, it's still kinda a rough draft and Shadowcat still hasn't added the credits *elbows him to do it*
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Can you say broken link? I can..... BROKEN LINK!!!! :lol:
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Post by maryadavies »

I know, lol!

School finally nuked my old page (I'd moved most of it a long time ago). Never fear; I got a (ad-free) alternative. The original link no longer works but..

here's one that DOES work: http://maryadavies.250free.com/ffxinewbie.html

I knew the school would nuke my page sooner or later(since I was no longer a student there); it was just a question of when.
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Post by Klenath »

maryadavies wrote:Shadowcat just got through ...
Shadowcat?!?!? :?:

Where's she been lately? She's got a dagger of mine I'd like to have back so I can level dagger some day.
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Post by maryadavies »

Oops, we got beta/retail confusion!

I think some people on the shell realized when I saw "Shadowcat" on the shell one day and got a bit spooked! See, my bro uses "Shadowcat" for a nick a lot of places...

See, my bro's chara was Shadowcat in beta, his chara is Shadowneko now...

Pic of my bro's chara from beta from a funny situation


Presenting...Shadowneko!!
(My bro's retail chara)

I still hope ya get your dagger back! Even though you don't mean my brother!
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Post by maryadavies »

Oh dearie me..is it? Yes it is. Another naughty double post. But this time, it's on purpose.

My bro just finished version 1.5 of the Newbie Guide (and I just finished HTML'ing and editing the sucker) Added basic macros, the Kazham airship quest, corrected some things, added a Updates section and WOAH for a lotta ya: added a table of contents. WITH anchors for the HTML version ONLY. (That was prodded by someone Sivara ought to know and know well. A hint: his online nick starts with a D.)

Anyway, in case you missed where I put it after my school page died the death (so you didn't have to deal with pesky ads) it's now at http://maryadavies.250free.com/ffxinewbie.html . (There's ads there atm, I'm tryin' to get that fixed)

Comments on the content? Anything you cats I ought to get the newspaper and whap on my bro to add?

I'm prolly gonna go over it one more time before it goes to submit city tho. Right now, I is sleepy. This kitty go to bed. :angel:
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